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Scot had a good idea on posting over here so non registered people can look at them , feel free to post your LE 2 pict here .... I made mine my lap top screen saver .... I just can't quit looking at it ...lol ....Here's my number 07 with clear blue , gragh tech nut , locking tuners and the DFS upgrade
Fumble fingers wrote:Ken .... Put the Tumbs down , it won't help that kind of gas , the only Cure would be to call Bob tomorrow
I overdid it with gear purchases in 2013 (several all-time wish list items showed up at the upper end of my price range) and have just had some very unexpected expenses come up. I tried to sell off my Gold Flake ASAT Bass to fund the PRS a couple of months ago, but haven't had any takers yet. Maybe if that bass moves, I could rationalize an LE-2. At least I'm satisfied with my G&L harem at this point, and only have two gaping holes in the collection to be on the lookout for (a second-style SB-2 and an ASAT Bass, both Leo-era). And, of course, that elusive G-200. If there's still time to order mid-year and neither of those have showed up, I may join the LE-2 club after all.
Mine would be Clear Orange, with a Saddle Lock and a request for flame in the body...
Wow, these are great! I was just looking at the Fallout and thinking that it would be great to have the option of that exact pickup combination. So, will they be making another batch of these? I may want to get in line if they are. What are the options on the neck profiles for these? Would a 1a profile with ebony fingerboard be an option?
I believe 25 is all there will be ... that said there are still some numbers available , call Bob at Music Source if you want a LE 2 as there is still time to get in on it ..... I can see me getting a Fallout in the future , I like my SC 2 , the general shape and weight of this body style is hard to beat
Okay, great! So is this the correct Music Source to call? http://musicsourcegrayslake.com/index.php If they're only making 25, how many are left? It sounded like they were all taken already.
Great, thanks again! Now all I need to do is find a music store that has a Fallout in stock, if that's even possible. G&Ls aren't the most accessible guitars, unfortunately. I'd hate to order one without even having played it. There's a local store that carries G&L, but they only have one in stock and that's a Bluesboy, so I'm not sure how I'm going to find one.
There is one thing I am a bit puzzled about. I have ordered mine with a Graphtech nut, which I expected to be black, and locking tuners. However, the nut showing is white whereas e.g. the nut on Fumble's #7 is black. Wazzup with that? Maybe not #2?
maybe it's not number 2 ?? good question maybe the number was mis read ?? .... the only guitar I have right now with gragh tech is my Comanche and it's black , looks like number 7 is black too , as far as I know they are black
my Fallout will either be big flake blue or big flake orange , matching head stock , black PG and PU's with rosewood finger board , locking tuners and quarter sawn neck
my Fallout will either be big flake blue or big flake orange , matching head stock , black PG and PU's with rosewood finger board , locking tuners and quarter sawn neck
If you go with the Blue Flake with black PG did you consider an ebony fretboard, if that is available on a Fallout?
my Fallout will either be big flake blue or big flake orange , matching head stock , black PG and PU's with rosewood finger board , locking tuners and quarter sawn neck
If you go with the Blue Flake with black PG did you consider an ebony fretboard, if that is available on a Fallout?
Thanks for posting those pics! This whole process will be a great story associated with these LE 2's for many many years to come... To have such cool pics from inside the factory is just the icing on the cake!
Is the difference between the LE2 and the Fallout the big MFD vs. P-90 pups?
Zip
The Fallout has AlNiCo P-90 neck pup and an AlNiCo humbucker at the bridge, saddle lock bridge only.
The LE-2 is an MFD soapbar single coil on the neck and an MFD F-100 humbucker at the bridge, with an option for a Saddle Lock or DF Vibrato. The LE-2 also has a G&L first Roasted Maple Neck.
The two guitars will sound distinct from one another.
JagInTheBag wrote:The LE-2 also has a G&L first Roasted Maple Neck.
Just for correctness, the honor for the first roasted maple neck at G&L goes to the pine Bluesboy prototype with S/N CLF062973 completed October 18, 2011 and since nicknamed "Port&Chocolate".
Do prototypes count even though they may be released for sale? They are experiments. I believe a bona fide series or model that utilizes information culled from experimentation is a category unto itself. I think this is what JagInTheBag was referring to.
Salmon wrote:Do prototypes count even though they may be released for sale? They are experiments. I believe a bona fide series or model that utilizes information culled from experimentation is a category unto itself. I think this is what JagInTheBag was referring to.
Yes, prototypes count, sold or not. That is why e.g. the Les Paul Log is such a relevant instrument for development of the solid body guitar, or 'The Rembrandt' when it comes down to the G&L Signature models. And as for 'Port&Chocolate' vs. LE-2 in particular: both are/were commercially available through a single store and build in limited quantity. It would be a bit weird to have to await the first true, generally available production model to award the label of first G&L with roasted maple neck, certainly when I have both predecessors in my collection in a couple of weeks. And I for certain know that 'Port&Chocloate' is a (as you state it) 'bona fide series [of 1] or model' and which roasted neck came first
yowhatsshakin wrote:...And as for 'Port&Chocolate' vs. LE-2 in particular: both are/were commercially available through a single store and build in limited quantity. It would be a bit weird to have to await the first true, generally available production model to award the label of first G&L with roasted maple neck, certainly when I have both predecessors in my collection in a couple of weeks. And I for certain know that 'Port&Chocloate' is a (as you state it) 'bona fide series [of 1] or model' and which roasted neck came first
Prototypes and production models are not the same thing to non-collectors. I hope and expect that every feature in a guitar made available for sale to the public by a manufacturer was included in a prototype at some stage. A one-off prototype and a series limited to 25 are both "limited quantities." Some prototypes have been approved for sales through the same dealers as production models. However, I believe this is stretching it when pointing out similarities. Guitars from the two categories mentioned are built and made available for sales under distinctly different circumstances.
Specifically, your prototype is not a "bona fide series [of 1] or model." It was built with two separate experiments in mind.** The guitar eventually became available for sale as a lab mouse guitar, precious in its own way, but the design was not intended and has not been developed as a model or series ...yet at least.
From a collector's POV I see what you are getting at and G&L approved the sale of some of their lab mouse guitars that may contain the very first example of certain features, however, is not the LEII the first G&L sanctioned guitar and series to offer the roasted maple neck? (G&L sanctioned guitar and series, as in approved for a sale with all of G&L's backing prior to the build). If so, that would make it "a G&L first roasted maple neck."
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Serial Number: CLF062973
Date Completed: October 18, 2011
Description: Western Sugar Pine body with Clear Red finish, Roasted Maple neck with Clear Gloss finish. MFD bridge pickup and Seymour Duncan Seth Lover neck pickup with chrome cover.
Special Features: The prototyle was made to evaluate two things. First, the team wanted to see how a Western Sugar Pine body would looked in a transparent color. The natural color of this Pine has a more yellow hue compared to Swamp Ash so we were fairly confident that any of our yellow/amber/orange transparent finishes (bursts or solid colors) would look nice. However, we were not so confient about some of the reds, blues and greens. We painted this one Clear Red and it turned out very nice. The second thing we wanted to evaluat with this instrument was a neck made entirely of Roasted Maple. When G&L builds an all-maple neck, either of flat-sawn or quarter-sawn maple, the fingerboard is sliced off from the wood, the truss rod inserted, and the two pieces are glued back together. The roasting process is intended to increase the hardness and stability of the neck, though we discovered it can also make the wood more brittle which requires more care in the manufacturing process. On this neck there are hairline cracks around the face position markers caused as the dots were pressed in, though the gloss finish covers them. In the process we learned how to better manage Roasted Maple when used for the fingerboard.
JagInTheBag wrote:The LE-2 also has a G&L first Roasted Maple Neck.
Just for correctness, the honor for the first roasted maple neck at G&L goes to the pine Bluesboy prototype with S/N CLF062973 completed October 18, 2011 and since nicknamed "Port&Chocolate".
- Jos
Jos, please pardon me. I intended to say G&L's first PRODUCTION roasted maple neck. Port and Chocolate is the first prototype and certainly a beauty!
Salmon wrote:Specifically, your prototype is not a "bona fide series [of 1] or model." It was built with two separate experiments in mind.** The guitar eventually became available for sale as a lab mouse guitar, precious in its own way, but the design was not intended and has not been developed as a model or series ...yet at least.
"… a lab mouse guitar, …"? Port&Chocolate felt slighted not being taken serious as fully functional. She was crying of my shoulder this morning. Or 'wailing', as it is better known in guitar playing circles
JagInTheBag wrote:Jos, please pardon me. I intended to say G&L's first PRODUCTION roasted maple neck. Port and Chocolate is the first prototype and certainly a beauty!
~Jag
Patrick, I understood that from the get-go and fully agree with your qualifier. I just wanted to put it all in historical context.
my Fallout will either be big flake blue or big flake orange , matching head stock , black PG and PU's with rosewood finger board , locking tuners and quarter sawn neck
If you go with the Blue Flake with black PG did you consider an ebony fretboard, if that is available on a Fallout?
I will consider it when it's time to order , I will have a Broadcaster first
Mines basically the same as jags, but with stainless frets,graphite nut & slim C neck.the autumn burst appears a bit lighter than previous pics I've seen,but still looks pretty wicked with the maple deck
Haven't received any pics yet though.who do I contact for a few snappys gents?
Cheers.
All good bud thanks for the info.ive got other stuff on order with bob this shipment & my next rotation out is not it'll the end of next month so no real urgency this end.just thought maybe some of you boys had a direct in with the factory & was a bit curious into how lucky no 13 was coming on oh & belated festive seasons greetings to all & sundry while I'm out here as well live long & prosper guys!
astutzmann wrote:Great AXE....I'm assuming they are all there?
Bob is letting them get acclimated to the store temp before unboxing them. He'll have them all set up, professionally photographed, packaged back up and shipped back out to everyone. Should be a few days, but we are getting close! Here is another shot:
JOIN US! 
Port&Chocolate felt slighted not being taken serious as fully functional. She was crying of my shoulder this morning. Or 'wailing', as it is better known in guitar playing circles 
oh & belated festive seasons greetings to all & sundry while I'm out here as well 
live long & prosper guys!
