NGD Port&Chocolate prototype
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NGD Port&Chocolate prototype
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It must have been a good day for NGD. After Roland's gorgeous BelAir Green ASAT Special, here some more G&L porn.
First the visuals. The neck is this beautiful brown. Not an even brown, but patches of lighter and darker brown. I hope you can assess that too from the pictures below. And Clear Red on a pine body should be a keeper. The neck is beefy and fits my large hands nicely. BTW, for the life of me I couldn't make out any hairline cracks on the fingerboard around the position markers as mentioned in the blurb for this guitar.
And the sound report:
Guitar is light, resonates like hell, brighter than mahogany but I have a harder time distinguishing it from ash. Haven't compared to alder yet.
- Jos
It must have been a good day for NGD. After Roland's gorgeous BelAir Green ASAT Special, here some more G&L porn.
First the visuals. The neck is this beautiful brown. Not an even brown, but patches of lighter and darker brown. I hope you can assess that too from the pictures below. And Clear Red on a pine body should be a keeper. The neck is beefy and fits my large hands nicely. BTW, for the life of me I couldn't make out any hairline cracks on the fingerboard around the position markers as mentioned in the blurb for this guitar.
And the sound report:
Guitar is light, resonates like hell, brighter than mahogany but I have a harder time distinguishing it from ash. Haven't compared to alder yet.
- Jos
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Re: NGD Port&Chocolate prototype
Looks like an Anderson "chocolate maple" neck... Good looking!
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Re: NGD Port&Chocolate prototype
Looks Fantastic Jos! I'm glad it arrived safely today! It definitely went to the right owner!
This is my dilemma, I get to the point that I think I have enough guitars, then someone posts these great pics of sweet guitars and my GAS comes back!
Enjoy! And thanks for sharing!
Dave
This is my dilemma, I get to the point that I think I have enough guitars, then someone posts these great pics of sweet guitars and my GAS comes back!
Enjoy! And thanks for sharing!
Dave
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Re: NGD Port&Chocolate prototype
Thanks Will! When you read the blurb on Tom Anderson's website (you'll have to scroll down a bit) there is no explicit mention a roasting process to produce the 'Chocolate Neck'. But since the "chocolating" process ' ... darkens the neck wood, completely through to its center,...' it hardly can be anything different. At least vindicates one half of the nickname I bestowed on this beautywillross wrote:Looks like an Anderson "chocolate maple" neck... Good looking!
Cheers,
Will
- Jos
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Thanks Dave! I'm glad it made it safely here too. Played her some more this evening and like her a lot. Like for my favorite Bird's Eye Maple necks, the Gloss finish makes you aware that you're playing a maple fingerboard. But every time you look down, you go 'What the heck is that color?'RampageFan wrote:Looks Fantastic Jos! I'm glad it arrived safely today! It definitely went to the right owner!
This is my dilemma, I get to the point that I think I have enough guitars, then someone posts these great pics of sweet guitars and my GAS comes back!
Enjoy! And thanks for sharing!
Dave
And then you smile when it sinks in
- Jos
P.S. As far as GAS is concerned I don't want to get you in trouble. I get myself into trouble plenty enough already
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Re: NGD Port&Chocolate prototype
Jos
thats really nice
May the Blues neve die
Roland
thats really nice
May the Blues neve die
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Jos, that is sweet. Is this a new model that G&L is experimenting with or is it a special build. I have never heard of one.-- Darwin
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Re: NGD Port&Chocolate prototype
It is one the G&L prototypes they are selling. See this post for details: G&L will be offering some recent Prototype instruments.darwinohm wrote:Jos, that is sweet. Is this a new model that G&L is experimenting with or is it a special build. I have never heard of one.-- Darwin
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Jos - - truly beautiful looking ASAT. Just needs one thing... please remove the serial # plate if you haven't already. At the very least they should have "baked" that too to match the neck/headstock color.
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The roasted Maple is even nicer that I thought it would be. Congrats on grabbing the prototype, Jos!
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That's the neck we should add to the GbL-2...
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Do you think it would look good with Fullerton red or Lemon Drop? Really depends on the pickguard.willross wrote:That's the neck we should add to the GbL-2...
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Re: NGD Port&Chocolate prototype
suhr has both roasted and baked maple necks. different color, same process.
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Re: NGD Port&Chocolate prototype
Urged by this post by Darth Invader in the G&L announces the new ASAT Classic Alnico ... tread, I popped of the bridge on the Port&Chocolate prototype and was once more surprised.
The G&L Guitar prototypes page states that it has an MFD pup in te bridge. WRONG!!
The spec sheet states that is has a non-descript Seymour Duncan in the bridge. AGAIN WRONG!!
As this picture shows, it is a DiMarzio DP421 Area Hot T hum-canceling bridge pickup. The 8.69kΩ is remeasured this morning is a tad lower than the 9.33kΩ on the website but at least it makes more sense now. I'll ask Dave to update the website and production log and (hopefully) send me a correct spec-sheet.
- Jos
The G&L Guitar prototypes page states that it has an MFD pup in te bridge. WRONG!!
The spec sheet states that is has a non-descript Seymour Duncan in the bridge. AGAIN WRONG!!
As this picture shows, it is a DiMarzio DP421 Area Hot T hum-canceling bridge pickup. The 8.69kΩ is remeasured this morning is a tad lower than the 9.33kΩ on the website but at least it makes more sense now. I'll ask Dave to update the website and production log and (hopefully) send me a correct spec-sheet.
- Jos
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Re: NGD Port&Chocolate prototype
G&L are really making some great guitars 30 years after they were established.
This is one of the best!
Anthony
This is one of the best!
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Re: NGD Port&Chocolate prototype
Thats very interesting Jos. On paper that pickup sounds like the perfect match for the SL in the neck. I think I'll try one of them next in my Bluesboy, I can never seem to find a really good match - its currently got a Seymour Duncan Lil '59 in the bridge which I thought would do the trick but the SL has a much, much better high end and actually seems to twang more. Figure that one out!
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Antony, G&L certainly is building some fine guitars 30 years after their founding. And they have not really lapsed anywhere in between either!
Jaimie, after putting 'Port&Chocolate' together again I played it the rest of the morning 'til I posted. The guitar really sounds great. The twang is there in the bridge with a little more warmth than usual and dead quiet of course. The pickups are well balanced and the in between works great too. So it is certainly worth the experiment. Funnily enough, when browsing on eBay, I found this G&L ASAT Classic auction which, beyond the stainless steel frets, is also claimed to be equiped with DiMarzio Area T pups.
- Jos
Jaimie, after putting 'Port&Chocolate' together again I played it the rest of the morning 'til I posted. The guitar really sounds great. The twang is there in the bridge with a little more warmth than usual and dead quiet of course. The pickups are well balanced and the in between works great too. So it is certainly worth the experiment. Funnily enough, when browsing on eBay, I found this G&L ASAT Classic auction which, beyond the stainless steel frets, is also claimed to be equiped with DiMarzio Area T pups.
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I think its funny that ebay retailers are confusing MFD designs "The G&L ASAT Classic also includes Magnetic Field Coil pickups, a proprietary G&L design, for quiet operation and incredible tone." with a Dimarzio ALNICO hum cancelling pup. Can't have it both ways sir!yowhatsshakin wrote:Antony, G&L certainly is building some fine guitars 30 years after their founding. And they have not really lapsed anywhere in between either!
Jaimie, after putting 'Port&Chocolate' together again I played it the rest of the morning 'til I posted. The guitar really sounds great. The twang is there in the bridge with a little more warmth than usual and dead quiet of course. The pickups are well balanced and the in between works great too. So it is certainly worth the experiment. Funnily enough, when browsing on eBay, I found this G&L ASAT Classic auction which, beyond the stainless steel frets, is also claimed to be equiped with DiMarzio Area T pups.
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it was actually g&l confusing it themselves.JagInTheBag wrote:I think its funny that ebay retailers are confusing MFD designs "The G&L ASAT Classic also includes Magnetic Field Coil pickups, a proprietary G&L design, for quiet operation and incredible tone." with a Dimarzio ALNICO hum cancelling pup. Can't have it both ways sir!yowhatsshakin wrote:Antony, G&L certainly is building some fine guitars 30 years after their founding. And they have not really lapsed anywhere in between either!
Jaimie, after putting 'Port&Chocolate' together again I played it the rest of the morning 'til I posted. The guitar really sounds great. The twang is there in the bridge with a little more warmth than usual and dead quiet of course. The pickups are well balanced and the in between works great too. So it is certainly worth the experiment. Funnily enough, when browsing on eBay, I found this G&L ASAT Classic auction which, beyond the stainless steel frets, is also claimed to be equiped with DiMarzio Area T pups.
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A little of both I think. The blurb at the top most likely what this eBay seller uses for all ASAT Classics it lists, whereas the list at the bottom is most likely copied from the spec sheet. I wish they had included a picture of the latter ...louis cyfer wrote:it was actually g&l confusing it themselves.JagInTheBag wrote:I think its funny that ebay retailers are confusing MFD designs "The G&L ASAT Classic also includes Magnetic Field Coil pickups, a proprietary G&L design, for quiet operation and incredible tone." with a Dimarzio ALNICO hum cancelling pup. Can't have it both ways sir!
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Are those hairline cracks around the bolt holes?yowhatsshakin wrote:Hi gang,
It must have been a good day for NGD. After Roland's gorgeous BelAir Green ASAT Special, here some more G&L porn.
First the visuals. The neck is this beautiful brown. Not an even brown, but patches of lighter and darker brown. I hope you can assess that too from the pictures below. And Clear Red on a pine body should be a keeper. The neck is beefy and fits my large hands nicely. BTW, for the life of me I couldn't make out any hairline cracks on the fingerboard around the position markers as mentioned in the blurb for this guitar.
And the sound report:
Guitar is light, resonates like hell, brighter than mahogany but I have a harder time distinguishing it from ash. Haven't compared to alder yet.
- Jos
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~~ The G&L ASAT Classic features the Saddle Lock bridge ~~ the ad description also claims to have a Saddlelock Bridge, which it clearly does not!yowhatsshakin wrote:Antony, G&L certainly is building some fine guitars 30 years after their founding. And they have not really lapsed anywhere in between either!
Jaimie, after putting 'Port&Chocolate' together again I played it the rest of the morning 'til I posted. The guitar really sounds great. The twang is there in the bridge with a little more warmth than usual and dead quiet of course. The pickups are well balanced and the in between works great too. So it is certainly worth the experiment. Funnily enough, when browsing on eBay, I found this G&L ASAT Classic auction which, beyond the stainless steel frets, is also claimed to be equiped with DiMarzio Area T pups.
- Jos
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This is just sloppy ebaying. would not buy from a guy who doesn't know or care to check.Lefty wrote:~~ The G&L ASAT Classic features the Saddle Lock bridge ~~ the ad description also claims to have a Saddlelock Bridge, which it clearly does not!yowhatsshakin wrote:Antony, G&L certainly is building some fine guitars 30 years after their founding. And they have not really lapsed anywhere in between either!
Jaimie, after putting 'Port&Chocolate' together again I played it the rest of the morning 'til I posted. The guitar really sounds great. The twang is there in the bridge with a little more warmth than usual and dead quiet of course. The pickups are well balanced and the in between works great too. So it is certainly worth the experiment. Funnily enough, when browsing on eBay, I found this G&L ASAT Classic auction which, beyond the stainless steel frets, is also claimed to be equiped with DiMarzio Area T pups.
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even if it's a g&l dealer and that is the only guitar of its kind, and you really want that guitar?JagInTheBag wrote:This is just sloppy ebaying. would not buy from a guy who doesn't know or care to check.Lefty wrote:~~ The G&L ASAT Classic features the Saddle Lock bridge ~~ the ad description also claims to have a Saddlelock Bridge, which it clearly does not!yowhatsshakin wrote:Antony, G&L certainly is building some fine guitars 30 years after their founding. And they have not really lapsed anywhere in between either!
Jaimie, after putting 'Port&Chocolate' together again I played it the rest of the morning 'til I posted. The guitar really sounds great. The twang is there in the bridge with a little more warmth than usual and dead quiet of course. The pickups are well balanced and the in between works great too. So it is certainly worth the experiment. Funnily enough, when browsing on eBay, I found this G&L ASAT Classic auction which, beyond the stainless steel frets, is also claimed to be equiped with DiMarzio Area T pups.
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The guitar in the auction is none of those things Louis. G&L dealers should not mistake an ashtray bridge for a saddle lock, or MFD's for ALNICO's. As a broker of collectable things, the answer is "no" I would not buy that item based on that auction. Experience tells me that it would get to me and the item would be FAR lesser than was represented so I would pass on the item and its seller.louis cyfer wrote:even if it's a g&l dealer and that is the only guitar of its kind, and you really want that guitar?JagInTheBag wrote:This is just sloppy ebaying. would not buy from a guy who doesn't know or care to check.Lefty wrote:~~ The G&L ASAT Classic features the Saddle Lock bridge ~~ the ad description also claims to have a Saddlelock Bridge, which it clearly does not!yowhatsshakin wrote:Antony, G&L certainly is building some fine guitars 30 years after their founding. And they have not really lapsed anywhere in between either!
Jaimie, after putting 'Port&Chocolate' together again I played it the rest of the morning 'til I posted. The guitar really sounds great. The twang is there in the bridge with a little more warmth than usual and dead quiet of course. The pickups are well balanced and the in between works great too. So it is certainly worth the experiment. Funnily enough, when browsing on eBay, I found this G&L ASAT Classic auction which, beyond the stainless steel frets, is also claimed to be equiped with DiMarzio Area T pups.
- Jos
If was truly a rarebird, I would find a local agent or fly in myself to examine the guitar to purchase it IN SPITE OF THE INCOMPETENT REPRESENTATION. I'd also beat them up as much as I could on price because they couldn't be bothered to carefully and accurately represent their goods. If they showed good customer service in person, I may teach them what I know so they can a do better job for the next guy as well.
UPDATE: I called the dealer, talked to the Ebay guy (ironically names Louis) and enlightened him as to the description confusion. He was grateful, told me his predecessor had posted that auction and that he was going to fix it ASAP.
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i thought we were talking about the prototype.JagInTheBag wrote:The guitar in the auction is none of those things Louis. G&L dealers should not mistake an ashtray bridge for a saddle lock, or MFD's for ALNICO's. As a broker of collectable things, the answer is "no" I would not buy that item based on that auction. Experience tells me that it would get to me and the item would be FAR lesser than was represented so I would pass on the item and its seller.louis cyfer wrote:even if it's a g&l dealer and that is the only guitar of its kind, and you really want that guitar?JagInTheBag wrote:This is just sloppy ebaying. would not buy from a guy who doesn't know or care to check.Lefty wrote:~~ The G&L ASAT Classic features the Saddle Lock bridge ~~ the ad description also claims to have a Saddlelock Bridge, which it clearly does not!yowhatsshakin wrote:Antony, G&L certainly is building some fine guitars 30 years after their founding. And they have not really lapsed anywhere in between either!
Jaimie, after putting 'Port&Chocolate' together again I played it the rest of the morning 'til I posted. The guitar really sounds great. The twang is there in the bridge with a little more warmth than usual and dead quiet of course. The pickups are well balanced and the in between works great too. So it is certainly worth the experiment. Funnily enough, when browsing on eBay, I found this G&L ASAT Classic auction which, beyond the stainless steel frets, is also claimed to be equiped with DiMarzio Area T pups.
- Jos
If was truly a rarebird, I would find a local agent or fly in myself to examine the guitar to purchase it IN SPITE OF THE INCOMPETENT REPRESENTATION. I'd also beat them up as much as I could on price because they couldn't be bothered to carefully and accurately represent their goods. If they showed good customer service in person, I may teach them what I know so they can a do better job for the next guy as well.
UPDATE: I called the dealer, talked to the Ebay guy (ironically names Louis) and enlightened him as to the description confusion. He was grateful, told me his predecessor had posted that auction and that he was going to fix it ASAP.
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No worries Louis.louis cyfer wrote:i thought we were talking about the prototype.JagInTheBag wrote:
UPDATE: I called the dealer, talked to the Ebay guy (ironically named Louis) and enlightened him as to the description confusion. He was grateful, told me his predecessor had posted that auction and that he was going to fix it ASAP.
So I wonder now many ASAT Classics are running around with Area T's? Is that the pup that comes stock in an ASAT Classic Alnico?
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Nope, see G&L announces the new ASAT Classic Alnico ....JagInTheBag wrote: So I wonder now many ASAT Classics are running around with Area T's? Is that the pup that comes stock in an ASAT Classic Alnico?
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