G&L Legacy special - bridge and middle pickups dead.. :(

Technical Talk and Tips
roey
Posts: 6
Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:11 am

G&L Legacy special - bridge and middle pickups dead.. :(

Post by roey »

Hi all.
My 1997 G&L Legacy Special's bridge and middle pickups no longer make any sound..
well, the middle makes a very faint sound and the bridge none at all.

I opened the guitar up and took a look at the wiring, evrything is connected OK and keep in mind the neck pickup works well.

I put some contact spray on the pickup switch, and measured contacts with a multimeter, everything seems in order.

How do I diagnose the problem? can I open the pickups up ?
If the pickups are indeed dead, how do I get some new ones? I couldn't see them sold anywhere on the internet.

Thanks
Roey.
User avatar
Miles Smiles
Posts: 610
Joined: Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:02 am
Location: Europe/Austria

Re: G&L Legacy special - bridge and middle pickups dead.. :(

Post by Miles Smiles »

roey wrote: How do I diagnose the problem? can I open the pickups up ?
You probably won't see anything. Check the resistance with a multimeter. Even the cheapest one may do.

Check at the point, where the cables from the pickup are soldered to the switch and ground. The resistance value should be around 6 or 7 kOhm. If it's infinitely, the problem is at the pickup. If the value is right, the problem is at your switch.

Sometimes the contacts of the switch need to be bent a little for contact.

The pickups are available at the online store: http://g-l-online-store.myshopify.com/c ... ng-pickups

Too expensive though.
Last edited by Craig on Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:21 am, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: Admin updated the G&L On-Line Store link
User avatar
Lefty
Posts: 354
Joined: Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:17 am
Location: Port Angeles, WA or Oakland, CA

Re: G&L Legacy special - bridge and middle pickups dead.. :(

Post by Lefty »

It's hard to believe that 2 pickups would die at the same time.. I'd guess it's either a bad pickup selector switch or broken solder joint..
Lefty
roey
Posts: 6
Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:11 am

Re: G&L Legacy special - bridge and middle pickups dead.. :(

Post by roey »

I checked resistance between the reds at the switch and the black at the tone knobs,
The neck pickup (that works) has 5Kohm
The middle pickup has 200Mohm
the bridge pickup doesn't register any resistance.

I guess Miles Smiles was right and the pickups are gone... :(
User avatar
Miles Smiles
Posts: 610
Joined: Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:02 am
Location: Europe/Austria

Re: G&L Legacy special - bridge and middle pickups dead.. :(

Post by Miles Smiles »

roey wrote:I guess Miles Smiles was right and the pickups are gone... :(
I wrote: "The problem is at the pickup". ;)

As long as the coil isn't broken, the pickup isn't really gone. So there's a chance, that the problem is just before the coils. Either it's the wire to the pickup or at the point at wich it's soldered to the coil wire. I have a Fender neck pickup, which had exactly a broken solder joint right there. There was nothing special to see, but the joint was cold. So I soldered it with respect to the very thin coil wire and it works since then.

I once got a set of Legacy pickups out of Tribute for about 60 €, so if you've no success, you could try to find used ones. On the other hand, there's nothing very special about that pickups, so any good Stratocaster pickups would do.

As I wrote, the original pickups are available at the on-line store, but 180 $ for all three, are simply too much, on the other hand, you may need only two. ;)
User avatar
Craig
Site Admin
Posts: 11349
Joined: Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:52 am
Location: Either Coto De Caza, CA or Paso Robles, CA

Re: G&L Legacy special - bridge and middle pickups dead.. :(

Post by Craig »

Miles Smiles wrote:
roey wrote: How do I diagnose the problem? can I open the pickups up ?
You probably won't see anything. Check the resistance with a multimeter. Even the cheapest one may do.

Check at the point, where the cables from the pickup are soldered to the switch and ground. The resistance value should be around 6 or 7 kOhm. If it's infinitely, the problem is at the pickup. If the value is right, the problem is at your switch.

Sometimes the contacts of the switch need to be bent a little for contact.

The pickups are available at the online store: http://g-l-online-store.myshopify.com/c ... ng-pickups

Too expensive though.
The neck and middle pickup DC-R should be around 5.1K while the bridge pickup should be around 7.5K.

Hope this helps.

:ugeek:
Last edited by Craig on Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:21 am, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: Updated G&L On-LIne Store link
--Craig [co-webmaster of guitarsbyleo.com, since Oct. 16, 2000]
Welcome! Read This First
Got a G&L question? Check out the: G&L Knowledgebase
Current G&L Specifications and Options
User avatar
Craig
Site Admin
Posts: 11349
Joined: Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:52 am
Location: Either Coto De Caza, CA or Paso Robles, CA

Re: G&L Legacy special - bridge and middle pickups dead.. :(

Post by Craig »

roey wrote:I checked resistance between the reds at the switch and the black at the tone knobs,
The neck pickup (that works) has 5Kohm
The middle pickup has 200Mohm
the bridge pickup doesn't register any resistance.

I guess Miles Smiles was right and the pickups are gone... :(
An alternative would be to have the pickups rewound. There are
All sorts of pickup builders offer this service, just google "pickup rewinding services".

Hope this helps.

:ugeek:
--Craig [co-webmaster of guitarsbyleo.com, since Oct. 16, 2000]
Welcome! Read This First
Got a G&L question? Check out the: G&L Knowledgebase
Current G&L Specifications and Options