Pine Bluesboys

[blargfromouterspace]

Interesting.LINK

[Michael-GnL-Michael]

I always wonder about the durability of such a soft wood like pine in a guitar application.

You can easily put indentations in it.

Are the finishes usually extra thick to compensate for this?

Interesting.LINK

[NickHorne]

Is that guard solid "tort", and not 3-ply? I can't see any white at the edges, and it looks great! Understated and classy. Likewise the black pup screws, so as to disappear into the guard.
Looks very cool on the orange>

[louis cyfer]

I always wonder about the durability of such a soft wood like pine in a guitar application.

You can easily put indentations in it.

Are the finishes usually extra thick to compensate for this?

Interesting.LINK

i don't think so, they just get dented. not all pine is the same though, read ron kirn's discussion regarding this, what pine is suitable for guitar bodies and what pine isn't. when they just say pine, it is really too vague.

[jwebsmall]

What does a pine body ASAT sound like?

Would it be closer to an alder sound or a poplar sound?

[KenC]

What does a pine body ASAT sound like?

Would it be closer to an alder sound or a poplar sound?

Any pine that's harvested these days would probably be more like poplar. There is a lot of variability in pine, but it's all pretty soft. The stuff you see sold as white pine or even "white wood" at the big home improvement stores is the bottom of the barrel. It grows super fast and often won't have discernible growth rings. You can just about cut it with a fingernail. Yellow pine used for outdoor applications (such as decks) is heavier and denser, but still pretty soft compared to most guitar wood.

I'm curious where this wood came from. There is some availability of really old pine from buildings that are being taken down. My local hardwood dealer has some samples of floor joists from a 150 year old mill that was taken down in New England. It's pretty rough on the outside, but a little bit of milling reveals beautifully tight grain. Some pine floors in colonial houses are still in place after two centuries of use.

Ken

[louis cyfer]

What does a pine body ASAT sound like?

Would it be closer to an alder sound or a poplar sound?

Any pine that's harvested these days would probably be more like poplar. There is a lot of variability in pine, but it's all pretty soft. The stuff you see sold as white pine or even "white wood" at the big home improvement stores is the bottom of the barrel. It grows super fast and often won't have discernible growth rings. You can just about cut it with a fingernail. Yellow pine used for outdoor applications (such as decks) is heavier and denser, but still pretty soft compared to most guitar wood.

I'm curious where this wood came from. There is some availability of really old pine from buildings that are being taken down. My local hardwood dealer has some samples of floor joists from a 150 year old mill that was taken down in New England. It's pretty rough on the outside, but a little bit of milling reveals beautifully tight grain. Some pine floors in colonial houses are still in place after two centuries of use.

Ken

ron kirn had an interesting write up about how the different type of pines are suited differently to guitar building. he uses mostly old pine, but was mentioning that there are types of pine that are still a good option today. he also mentioned that using the word pine for a body is very deceptive because of the many different possibilities.

[jammers5]

Just saw a great demo from proguitarshop of the pine bluesboy

J5

[Miles Smiles]

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That whitespace must not be there.

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[jammers5]

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That whitespace must not be there.

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Thanks for fixing the link. I couldn't figure it out.

I love these guitars..... The sound great and look fantastic. The G&L's headstock is the coolest in the biz!

J5

[smurph1]

I Love the Tone!! But I wonder about durability..

[lshines]

There is a pine wood (tree) that a lot of people call "heart pine". No, it isn't from the "heart" of a pine tree. More properly named "long leaf pine". It typically grows in the Southern US, and was almost wiped out of existence in the late 1800's to early 1900's. It is beautifully tight-grained, with an amber color with red grain lines, very resinous, resists moisture, and is very much stronger than typical yellow pine. For those reasons, it was utilized in many high wear applications, such as in factorys (beams and floors), businesses (floors), and boat building. It's beautiful stuff!! Most that is available is from tear-down of those buildings mentioned. It's also expensive...

Just for looks, I'd love to have a guitar made from it (heck, and my house to match), and I speculate (I'm not an expert) that it would be as desirable for a guitar as any other pine. I believe Ron Kirn is using it (or similar) when requested.
Linwood

[asphalt-abate]

Love the sound of the Seth Lover in that pine body.

[Elwood]

Here's a pine tele body on ebay made of old barn wood :

http://www.ebay.com/itm/custom-telecast ... 2183wt_142

[louis cyfer]

Here's a pine tele body on ebay made of old barn wood :

http://www.ebay.com/itm/custom-telecast ... 2183wt_142

my tech talked me out of getting a pine body when i was looking to get one. he suggested cypress instead, still soft (not as soft), looks like pine but sound more like swamp ash. i am very happy with the decision.