Tuesday Lunch Report July 5th

[westsideduck]

Gonna have to post early today as the first day of the work week after a holiday is always hectic!

Don't know what lunch will be today, I have tons of work to do and am meeting a new client today at 1pm, may not even get a lunch.

As to yesterday's subject of hard rocken G&L's, all MFD pups will push an amp hard but the old F-100 buckers realy shine in a high gain situation. It all boils down to the amp you're pushing, when I get the rare chance to push the Train to it's limits any of these SC's will do the trick, very loud with a very smooth distoration and sustain for days.

What's your favorite amp / guitar combo for shacken the windows?

And speaking of SC's has anyone here had the pleasure of comparing the old sc-2 to the new BBE edition?



Two of these SC's are now in the hands of other members here, I kept the one in the middle because the neck just felt right, I did have a bit of a hard time letting the white one go to ZAPP, it was a close call as to playability and tone but the ebony neck won out.

Some ad slicks of Leo's, Leo was an innovator, notice the new and improved theme throughout.

Fender



Music Man



G&L




What Innovations could BBE bring about to keep leo's ball rolling, I thought the pleck was a nice one.

[rlbaker54]

hey westside.....is that a gibson falcon amp in the background of your guitar arsenal??........i have a falcon and i really love it...great clean tone, fabulous reverb and tremelo..

[Boogie Bill]

Well, first I have to catch up to yesterday, so I hope every one had a great 4th of July weekend and that everyone still has all of their fingers and toes attached.

Next I would tell you that I have 48 guitars, including a Fender Precision Lyte bass and an Ibanez 5-string banjo. That's 16 G&Ls, 11 Gibsons, 4 Ibanez, 7 Martins, 2 Music Mans, 2 Takamine 12-strings, 2 DanElectro 12-strings, and singles from Hondo and Taylor. I've owned 14 others; sold, destroyed or stolen.

With the Mesa amps, any of the guitars are great with rockin' high-gain tones. After all, THAT'S why you buy a Mesa! But I think the Gotoh Blades in the Legacy Special do a great job; and of course the Duncan humbuckers in the ASAT Deluxe. That guitar has a DF Vibrato, so having a 2HB guitar with a whammy is fun. The Comanches and the S-500s work well too; it's just instead of thick HB tones, you get a lot of clarity--even with the distortion. The Mesa's EQ make it really to dial in great lead tones, even with the vintage single coils of the Legacys. So the amp is really key.

If I really want to literaly shake the windows, then I have my 200-watt Mesa Mark III Coliseum head. I now have two 412s for lthis thing Six 6L6's, so when it's up to about 4 on the MV, it does speak with authority. I don't think I've ever used it louder than that. Most of the time it's used on the half power setting. On full power, that amp is just tremendously dynamic--the notes just explode out of the speakers. And it is a glorious sounding amp; everything I've ever played through it sounded great.

The Music Man ad you posted is the one that got me looking at and buying my first Sabre II. I'd really like to see G&L run some ads with that kind of substance. They run ads with pretty pictures, but there's ZERO information in them. Not good. I think people want to have some justification for their buying decisions--so show them WHY the guitar they're buying is a better guitar.

Good job!

Bill

[darwinohm]

Duck, I missed lunch today as I was scouting for a guitar. I do not shake the windows but our gigs this weekend were outdoors and that always creates a challenge. I usually run a single SWR 200 watt rig and XLR out through the PA. We need all the Pa we can get outdoors so I run 2 SWR 200 watt amps with 2 -15s and a 4-10 Goliath II. That does the job well outdoors.

I have never played an SC but I did look at a new SC-2 , Bel Air Green 2 years ago. It was light and has a small body and I was tempted but didn't. I think that I would like a new SC-2. They are simple and functional.

Leo was a forward thinker and his ads reflected that. I bet that he was caught by surprise at the popularity and timelessness of the Strats and Teles. I think that BBE has done a great job of improving the build process and the quality of the materials continues to be good. They still use Schaller and Sperzel for tuners. Fender now only uses Schallers on the Custom Shop models. They are getting the logo lockers from Ping, made in Taiwan. If you look at the quality of the German built Schaller Locker to the Ping , there is a big difference in quality as to the plating and metal preparation before plating. If you look closely at chrome parts sourced in the US and offshore counterparts, there is a noticeable difference. The metal in the US version is smoother and this is also true of the Tiribute/ American G&L hardware. The functional aspect is comparable as is probably true for the tuners. At least G&L seems to keep the quality moving forward. They just don't advertise every change like the big ones do. Fender has not changed their advertising methodology since the early Leo days. They still hype everything as new and improved and the older as outdated unless its vintage.-- Does that apply to me?? I'm mostly vintage.--Darwin

[sam]

A belated happy 4th to you Mr. Duck!

High gain guitar/amp combo for shakin the windows would be the Mesa F-50 and ASAT Deluxe (w/Dimarzio Evolution and Air Norton) or ASAT Z3. Have been getting into the Lonestar Special, ditto on Boogie Bill's Mesa comments.

Great old sales slicks. One of your remarks made me think of a re-issue or new issue would be Leo's never released Innovator.

[blargfromouterspace]

My window shakinest amp is my Supro Dual Tone. At only 25W it's not crazy loud but it serves its purpose. With a fuzz pedal and an ASAT it's awesome.

Love those old ads, great stuff. The L-1000 is a very attractive instrument. If I was a bass player I might own one.

[yowhatsshakin]

I'm with Bill there: that is why you buy a Mesa. Not that some of them can be sweet at lower volumes! Unfortunately did not have the opportunity (yet) to compare old and new SC-2's. And I agree that BBE does an admirable job staying on top of technology changes that do matter in improving the playability and stability of guitars. But they nicely balance that with their drive to recreate some old effects with more modern technology too with all the work of Paul Gagon.

- Jos

[BadJaxx]

i'm back, after a brief hiatus...
my fave guitar to hardrock out on is a Dean Soltero SL....i just can't hardrock without buckers...
my ASAT Classic S and Fenders do bluesand old school RnR...and my PRSi handle the rest...
Sam...tweak away on that Lonestar Special...great amp...
somebody posted about wanting to try a Strymon Blue Sky...i got one in a trade a couple weeks ago and it's now a major contributor to my sound...

my SD Twin Tube Classic started making a lot of white noise...prob due to having been left on all nite a couple times and left on for many hours many times...anyway, i had snagged their Blue Tube OD so just switched it in...it's a little different...tad thinner and brighter than the Twin Tube....i like both (figures, don't it?) so still wanna replace the TwinTube...

[Brock]

The Ampeg 8x10 cabinet is a window shaking favorite. I have a Yorkville 400 watt bass amp on top of mine, but the old 130 watt MusicMan bass head worked too. That cabinet is awesome. SPL on top of SPL.