G&L Legacy 31st Birthday

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G&L Legacy 31st Birthday

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Back in Jan 1995, I purchased a 1994 G&L Legacy new from a local music shop in Lowell, NC. I mainly played bass, and didn't play the Legacy very often. It's mostly been in its case for 31 years. I decided to get the guitar out, completely disassemble it, and soak all of the metal parts to remove some very light surface corrosion on the screw heads. The neck pickup was humming quite a bit, so I added some additional shielding in the pickup cutout and a little more on the back side of the pickguard and in the control cutout and replaced the scotch tape originally on the metal plate with some electric tape to isolate the selector.

The Legacy goes in next week to a highly respected luthier in my area to get setup hopefully better than I can do. Then this guitar is finally going to get played regularly.

One thing I found interesting is that from this same manufacturing date someone had mentioned having a single dot or speck under the finish near the arm rest, and mine has that same little dot. I wonder if that had any significance. I also found other posts from the same 1994 period where the neck pickup didn't align perfectly with the high E string. Mine has that same anomaly. The issue is not neck misalignment during shipping like with some other G&L's.

I put all of the information for the guitar in the registry.

Can any of you identify the wood type of the body from the image, below? Alder?

Here are some pics:

The guitar came in a hard case with the twist lock closures and the G&L logo and has raised ribs across the length of the case.

1994 G&L Legacy 3-Tone Sunburst with 3-bolt maple neck, Sperzel non-locking tuners, single ply white (yellowed to ivory) pickguard.
Serial Number G036811
Purchased new in January of 1995

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Body dated Jan 17, 1994
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Neck dated Jan 20, 1994
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Pickup Cavity and control cavity. SB -- Does anyone know the significance of "SB"? I know the basses were named SB1 and SB2.
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Head branding
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Here is a close look at the pickups. I couldn't find any logos or markings indicating Seymour Duncan, but they should be Seymour Duncan SSL single coil flats given the timeframe. Does anyone recognize these as something different? The white covers don't have the G&L logo.
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Certificate of Authenticity
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Tag that came with guitar. I'm not sure if this was from the music store or was from the factory.
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If anyone has any additional information about this guitar, I'd love to hear your thoughts.

At one time the serial number could be researched. Does that still exist? Thanks so much.

Best regards,
Salty
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Re: G&L Legacy 31st Birthday

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Regarding the pickups, they are almost certainly Seymour Duncan SSL-2 Vintage Flat.

From the Seymour Duncan website, they indicate that the only identifying mark on the early single coil pickups were number and letter stickers. The letter designated the employee that wound them.

2 triangular bottom, flat poles SSL-2 Vintage Flat

2A Bridge - wound by Raul Araiza (Single Coils)
2E or 2F Middle - wound by Edward Madrigal (maybe -- he normally did Humbuckers), but he is the only "E" listed and there is no F code employee)
2R Neck - wound by Connie Rocha (Single Coils)


Ref:
https://www.seymourduncan.com/blog/faqs ... efore-2002
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I'll take the gimmes: "SB" means "sunburst."
Body wood looks like swamp ash (95% confidence interval).
I'd like to see the spot by the arm rest... (At first, I thought you meant the dimple on the back near the neck plate.)

Nice looking Legacy! Looking forward to a report when it's back together.
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Body wood looks like Alder because Swamp Ash is whiter than Alder which is reddish, which this looks to be.
The standard body wood for Sunburst finishes was (and still is) Alder.
I have emailed Memo to look up the body wood and completion date of this Legacy.

Stay tuned.
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Wow, how could I have missed SB = sunburst. Thanks so much.


Here is a closeup of the dot. It looks like a single drop of white paint to me.

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A little further away for perspective:
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Barely detectable in the dark shadow reflection here. There is also a ceiling fan blade reflecting in the center of the body of the guitar that looks like a stain. Sorry about that.
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Finally, here is the back complete with a Jack Russell dog hair. I didn't include any photos of the back the first time.
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Thanks so much for your input on the guitar.
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Craig wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:31 am I have emailed Memo to look up the body wood and completion date of this Legacy.
Thank you for doing that, Craig. I sent him an email last week, as well, but wasn't sure if he was still providing the service.
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I'm not trying to argue with the boss, Craig. I recall from ggjaguar's site that in 1992 G&L began using alder for "opaque" (solid) finishes (at least on the ASAT). I just have it lodged in my memory that, for many years, alder was for solid finishes and ash for transparent ones. I tried searching the Knowledgebase for information from that era, but didn't find it...
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Re: G&L Legacy 31st Birthday

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hey saltydognc, love the single ply cream guard on the SB legacy! :thumbup:
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Craig wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:31 am Body wood looks like Alder because Swamp Ash is whiter than Alder which is reddish, which this looks to be.
The standard body wood for Sunburst finishes was (and still is) Alder.
I have emailed Memo to look up the body wood and completion date of this Legacy.

Stay tuned.
I heard back from Memo yesterday and he said:
Hi Craig,
I was unable to find the information on this instrument. The customer is welcome to send a photo of his instrument to me and I will verify the type body wood.
Best regards,


Memo Romero
G&L/BBE Service Manager
So, I sent him some photos which were posted here and he just replied back:
Hi Craig,
Yeah that looks like Alder, Ash has a more pronounced grain. Maple neck, standard 1-5/8” nut width, 12” radius.
Best regards,

Memo Romero
G&L/BBE Service Manager
Hope this helps.
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john o wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 9:42 pm hey saltydognc, love the single ply cream guard on the SB legacy! :thumbup:
Thanks, John!
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Craig wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:12 am Hope this helps.
Craig, I really appreciate you running it by Memo, and if you connect with him again, please relay my gratitude for his input.

In the closeup photo of the body date stamp, the unfinished raw wood does appear to have more of a pinkish hue, especially when comparing it to the maple neck pic. I compared it to some color swatches of alder and ash, and it appears to be closer to alder, but I know lighting can be tricky and taken alone probably can't be used to definitively identify the wood. I dropped it off today with the luthier. I'm sure he will know being able to inspect it first hand. I'll ask him, as well, just as an additional confirmation. It should be ready next week.

I put the setup of the Legacy back fairly close to the manual's suggestions and asked the luthier to do his magic. It was already playing well, so I'm looking forward to seeing what they can do to it to really dial it in. They will be doing fret adjustment and polishing, as well.

I was always curious what my Legacy could sound like if played really well with a great amp setup. For those that haven't tried the Fender Mustang Micro Plus, you're missing out. It's an amazing value at just under $130. Paired with Fender's Tone app on a phone, you can virtually create almost any setup you want from clean jazz to Texas Blues to heavy metal and everything in between. It's a phenomenal way to hear what the guitar can do without spending a fortune on equipment or having the neighbors call the police. :D It's also great for trying out vintage amp equipment virtually. It's also great for practice, because it outputs to headphones where only you hear what is produced. But that line out can be sent to an external small speaker like an Alexa Echo or Google Home or any other system that can take a 3.5mm jack if you want to hear it in a room. It can also be sent to an amp with a 3.5mm to standard jack adapter. It can also be connected to a computer via USB-C and it can receive backtrack music via Bluetooth. You can create an entire "studio" where you hear the backtrack through the headphones and hear your playing through the headphones in real time, and the USB cable can capture it and record it on the computer. So slick. Using something like a "virtual" Fender Black Face with an Ibanez Tube Screamer, (they show it as a green overdrive pedal in the app), the Seymour Duncan's sound fantastic. It was a real wow moment for me.

Thanks again for the help, everyone!