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F100 dimensions

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Hi!

Hope I can find someone kind enough to answer this request. I would really be grateful!
Would it be possible to have dimensions of F100 pickups? Also, would it be possible for someone to take pictures of a closeup and explain to me how they are fixed in the body?

The would really be much appreciated!

A big thank you!
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The outside dimensions of the F-100 MFD humbucker pickup cover is approximately 1 3/8" x 3 1/2". They are surface mounted with springs on the back and a foam strip adhered to the pickup cavity.

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Re: F100 dimensions

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I measured with a set of calipers and got 89.5 mm X 35.7 mm (3.52 in X 1.41 in).
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in case it helps;here's a shot of an empty set-

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Heya! Thanks for all those answers! It's really nice around here. People always answer, and are always helpful. Thanks a bunch again!
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Re: F100 dimensions

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I am pumped to see this thread because I was coming to post a very similar question. Would it be easy to convert a Fallout bridge humbucker to a F-100 humbucker. It looks like I would have to enlarge the route but it would work. My only concern is the width as I am unsure if the standard humbucker is wider than the F-100. And I don't know how the pickup ring factors in. Basically is it possible to make this change? (Obviously it's not drop in)
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Johnny Alien wrote: My only concern is the width as I am unsure if the standard humbucker is wider than the F-100. And I don't know how the pickup ring factors in. Basically is it possible to make this change? (Obviously it's not drop in)

I bought a badly modded F-100 (for humbuckers at some point), here you can see the route
needed to be widened...just too bad it wasn't by a pro. I squeezed 4 SC-3 pups in there for now :o

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Glad to see you here, Johnny Alien. I'd love to see how it turns out. Or, you can always convince a GbL member to sell you their LE-2...;)
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@Johnnyalien : well, the f100 is larger than conventional humbucker. You absolutely have to route the pickguard and the body. It's indeed not a drop in. The F100 got it's own thing, no pickup ring needed as it already got screws in it's casing (you have to screw in the body as I heard). You could end up lucky and just route it and it would "cover" the previous ring screw holes in the body, so it would be perfect. I don't have a set of calipers (gonna get myself one soon) or I would measure regular pickup dimension on my HH and let you know. I can't wait to mod my s500, be it two single put together or a f100 (I would prefer the f100, made for it, but gluing stuff in the route cavity or screwing in the body makes me sweat just thinking about it... Will keep in touch :) Oh, another thing : my guess is the f100 will clash a bit with the p90 of the fallout. Probably different output, as p90 would probably be less hot if it is already balanced to fit a regulard humbucker. I can assure you the s500 is way hotter than clf100 (regular single coil) so my bet is the f100 is way hotter than a std humbucker. Though, they new f100 compared to the 80's one seems like different from what I've been told - less bright than the old one, more dark... but the output is more hot than not. There is surely a way to get that out of the way though. Cheers!


I wonder if Chandler could make a custom request like that by shipping them the pickup tracing... I am gonna ask, just ordered another pickguard for my HH (wanted a change of look ;) ). It that is doable, I would probably try instead of buying a new pickguard and butcher it with my lack of pickguard modding knowledge...
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Re: F100 dimensions

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Anyone knows approximatively how long it is in wait to get something from g&l store? Just asking, so my luthier knows around how long it will take to receive the order. I suspect a week for shipping and such, but as for the orders, do they keep some in inventory? Will order components and a f100 next thursday. Thanks, and cheers!

@Jaginthebag : how does that marvelous HSS guitar in your avatar sound? Dang it is pretty! I suspect it sounds AMAZING! As amazing as it looks :D
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Re: F100 dimensions

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The route above is not done well so i actually can't decide if the F-100 pickup will be larger and cover the humbucker route (which is what I would need) or if the humbucker route is wider and I can't do what I want to do.
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I'm not sure it will be all that easy to mod the Fallout with an F-100 hb. Perhaps if tou were going to come up with a custom pickguard with a new shape it might be easier. My Washburn Idol looks like it has an F-type bucker (~52-53 mm pole spacing as best as I could measure with my calibers with the strings on). The pick up ring is 91.6 mm 46 mm. So it appears the ring is barley wider than the F-100. based on were the screw holes are it seem like it is likely you would need to widen the route. Then looking at the coil height, the two coils measured 36.2 mm in height slightly larger than the height of the F-100, so I think you will have a visible gap at te top and bottom. That's why I think you need a custom made pickguard (unless you don't mind the gaps or possible uneven route lines from the rework). For me, I'd need one the gaps would bother me.

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@Johnny Alien : I will order mine this week mate, and will take pictures of a regular humbucker right beside it to show you. My guess is there is gonna be gap but maybe not... Usually, the routing hole in the body is not as large as the pickup ring, so it might go even, but I ain't sure... Problems will surely be the screw holes... that's where it bothers me. Anyway, will take pics and dimensions when I will have mine compared to my HB2 (humbucker/humbucker) so we will know better. But it's not a pickup cavity, it's a pickguard mounted humbucker (HB2), so it might be a bit different... Sorry I cannot help you more, that's all I can do right now.


Check this thread also, might be of interest to you : http://www.guitarsbyleo.com/FORUM/viewt ... 100#p99642
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Re: F100 dimensions

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The legacy should have a bathtub route, so I think it should be fairly easy to mod the Legacy. I wouls think Chandler could cut you a custom pickguard to fit the F-100.

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I assume that there will be some screw holes from the pickup ring. I can actually deal with that but I don't want gaps around the pickup. I assume the route is always smaller than the ring.
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I am pretty sure there won't be a big gap, of none at all... in fact, the f100 looks the same as 2 s500 pups glued together, which is the same as a single coil twice, the exact same size of a humbucker. I'm pretty sure you have to route instead of filling a gap. But better safe than sorry, wait a bit until I get the f100 in hands, will check with my luthier if it is doable (I can even compare with my LP, which should be the exact same size pickup wise as the Fallout). I will try to find an answer for you, pretty sure you can make it. What you could do is buy calipers and measure your fallout at home. Just unstring the guitar and remove the pickup ring. You'll have a pretty good idea for yourself I think, better than I could ever because I don't have a pickup route in... but when there is a will, there is a way. You could even put two s500 together with a custom pickup ring, people could do one for you. Anyway, will keep in touch. Cheers!
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Crusher wrote:Hi!

Hope I can find someone kind enough to answer this request. I would really be grateful!
Would it be possible to have dimensions of F100 pickups? Also, would it be possible for someone to take pictures of a closeup and explain to me how they are fixed in the body?

The would really be much appreciated!

A big thank you!
I used my 30th Anniversary F-100 and measured both the Neck and Bridge pickups outside cover measurements.
Here are the measurements using digital calipers:
Neck: 3.38" x 1.40"
Bridge: 3.52" x 1.40"

I also took DC-R readings of each pickup:
N-9.9k
B-15.6k

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Re: F100 dimensions

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Nice :) Thank you. Really beautiful guitar by the way. That leads me to another question, if someone ever know (maybe you could also help Craig) : the volume pot isn't available in solid pole anymore as well as the 1 Meg. There is supposed to be a ring to hold the metal knob on, but I wonder how the ring can hold to the pot... I want to order a regular split one but they don't give the ring with the volume... my best bet would be to order a push pull pot to split the f100. But I am not so fond of push pull, I prefer switch 10 x better. Any idea?
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