Experiment, Help me Decide

The place to post your DIY music related projects.
BEFORE posting here, read this first: https://www.guitarsbyleo.com/FORUM/view ... 115&t=3056
User avatar
astutzmann
Posts: 678
Joined: Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:04 pm
Location: Niagara Canada

Experiment, Help me Decide

Post by astutzmann »

Hi Everyone:

I absolutely love my LE-2, it and my bluesboy are my two favourites. The only thing about it I'm not keen on, is the pick guard.

Image

So, I thought I'd try some different combos, woodgrain?

Image

or brown tortoise shell?

Image

Let me know which one is the keeper?

Thx

Alf
Alf Stutzmann
User avatar
suave eddie
Posts: 787
Joined: Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:12 pm
Location: B.C.

Re: Experiment, Help me Decide

Post by suave eddie »

I'm no help. I like the original black one best.
Fumble fingers
Posts: 2153
Joined: Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:11 pm
Location: Dayton , Ohio

Re: Experiment, Help me Decide

Post by Fumble fingers »

I like the Black best , followed by the torty
User avatar
Craig
Site Admin
Posts: 11349
Joined: Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:52 am
Location: Either Coto De Caza, CA or Paso Robles, CA

Re: Experiment, Help me Decide

Post by Craig »

suave eddie wrote:I'm no help. I like the original black one best.
+1

:ugeek:
--Craig [co-webmaster of guitarsbyleo.com, since Oct. 16, 2000]
Welcome! Read This First
Got a G&L question? Check out the: G&L Knowledgebase
Current G&L Specifications and Options
User avatar
KenC
Posts: 2344
Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:18 pm
Location: None of the above

Re: Experiment, Help me Decide

Post by KenC »

I vote for black, but think it would look nicer with black screws and knobs. Having contrasting hardware on such a small pickguard makes it look cluttered, IMO.

Ken
User avatar
darwinohm
Posts: 3218
Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:13 pm
Location: Minneapolis/St Paul

Re: Experiment, Help me Decide

Post by darwinohm »

Question Alf, is that a satin black pickguard or does it still have the covering on it? -- Darwin
Fumble fingers
Posts: 2153
Joined: Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:11 pm
Location: Dayton , Ohio

Re: Experiment, Help me Decide

Post by Fumble fingers »

darwinohm wrote:Question Alf, is that a satin black pickguard or does it still have the covering on it? -- Darwin

it does look like that in the picture now that you mention it
User avatar
Lefty
Posts: 354
Joined: Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:17 am
Location: Port Angeles, WA or Oakland, CA

Re: Experiment, Help me Decide

Post by Lefty »

KenC wrote:I vote for black, but think it would look nicer with black screws and knobs. Having contrasting hardware on such a small pickguard makes it look cluttered, IMO.

Ken
+1 - Black screws on the pickguard.
Lefty
User avatar
KenC
Posts: 2344
Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:18 pm
Location: None of the above

Re: Experiment, Help me Decide

Post by KenC »

Alf,

Did you happen to get a photo with the PG off? I would love to see what the routing looks like underneath. I've wondered if it would be possible to go down to just a control plate, like on the early SC models.

Ken
User avatar
Craig
Site Admin
Posts: 11349
Joined: Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:52 am
Location: Either Coto De Caza, CA or Paso Robles, CA

Re: Experiment, Help me Decide

Post by Craig »

KenC wrote:Alf,

Did you happen to get a photo with the PG off? I would love to see what the routing looks like underneath. I've wondered if it would be possible to go down to just a control plate, like on the early SC models.

Ken
Here's what it the control rout looks like:

Image

A pickguard is definitely needed.

:ugeek:
--Craig [co-webmaster of guitarsbyleo.com, since Oct. 16, 2000]
Welcome! Read This First
Got a G&L question? Check out the: G&L Knowledgebase
Current G&L Specifications and Options
User avatar
WitSok
Posts: 635
Joined: Sat Jun 01, 2013 4:49 pm

Re: Experiment, Help me Decide

Post by WitSok »

I like black best, but I agree they really should have used black screws. Of the options I like the tort quite a bit more than the simulated wood grain. Perhaps cream would look good?

Dan
User avatar
astutzmann
Posts: 678
Joined: Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:04 pm
Location: Niagara Canada

Re: Experiment, Help me Decide

Post by astutzmann »

great ideas.

Yes, that's what the route looks like, needs a full PG.

Its black satin, I have removed the plastic on it.

I agree the woodgrain looks cheesy. Maybe a real wood pick guard but it would be too hard to match.

I like the tortoise but not in such a big PG. Thought that one would be a winner, but not sure.

So, loving the idea of black screws and black knobs, hmm. Will have to try that next.

THX!!
Alf Stutzmann
User avatar
KenC
Posts: 2344
Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:18 pm
Location: None of the above

Re: Experiment, Help me Decide

Post by KenC »

Craig wrote:
Here's what it the control rout looks like:



A pickguard is definitely needed.

:ugeek:
Thanks Craig!
User avatar
Goat
Posts: 165
Joined: Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:23 pm
Location: Yorkshire, England

Re: Experiment, Help me Decide

Post by Goat »

I like the chrome knobs - balances the bridge/frets etc., but black screws would be a definite improvement.
User avatar
darwinohm
Posts: 3218
Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:13 pm
Location: Minneapolis/St Paul

Re: Experiment, Help me Decide

Post by darwinohm »

Alf, I do have this color in the Asat Alnico Launch and it happens to have a bwb gloss pickguard. It is very nice. I am not a fan of single ply pickguards in the first place as they are quite thin and usually don't lie real flat. I also think that guitar would look nice with a vintage white or mint. -- Darwin
User avatar
sam
Posts: 1971
Joined: Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:38 am

Re: Experiment, Help me Decide

Post by sam »

Gotta say I'm with Ken on keeping the black guard and going with black hardware , even better if you could get the DF trem in black crinkle :D
Cya,
Sam
User avatar
Elwood
Posts: 2498
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:00 am
Location: Canada's Mexico

Re: Experiment, Help me Decide

Post by Elwood »

Vote for Black here also. The tortoise does make the chrome screws less obvious .

Sam, I've been seeing a black DF in my mind for a while. Who will be the first to send one off to get it
(and the saddles?) powder coated ? :eh:
User avatar
astutzmann
Posts: 678
Joined: Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:04 pm
Location: Niagara Canada

Re: Experiment, Help me Decide

Post by astutzmann »

hmmmm, even better ideas, a black DFS would be awesome.

Darwin, I think you are right, the single ply satin black could be the problem as apposed to the bwb 3ply gloss.......hmmmm
Alf Stutzmann
User avatar
darwinohm
Posts: 3218
Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:13 pm
Location: Minneapolis/St Paul

Re: Experiment, Help me Decide

Post by darwinohm »

Alf, here is the same color on the Asat with a BWB closs pickguard. -- Darwin

Image
User avatar
astutzmann
Posts: 678
Joined: Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:04 pm
Location: Niagara Canada

Re: Experiment, Help me Decide

Post by astutzmann »

yes, much nicer, thanks for posting!
Alf Stutzmann
ant_riv
Posts: 65
Joined: Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:39 pm
Location: Chicago

Re: Experiment, Help me Decide

Post by ant_riv »

I agree with keeping the black also, but if you must change it, I think the tortoise works better.

Except, your guitar is backwards! And ..... so are all of the ones in your Avatar!

I absolutely LOVE the color of the guitar. I think it would be impossible to make it look bad.

Any pics of what you decided to do?
User avatar
SouthpawGuy
Posts: 561
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:24 am

Re: Experiment, Help me Decide

Post by SouthpawGuy »

I'll be the awkward one and suggest cream or mint with the black pickup covers
Image
User avatar
astutzmann
Posts: 678
Joined: Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:04 pm
Location: Niagara Canada

Re: Experiment, Help me Decide

Post by astutzmann »

OK, for now, I have some black parts. Put in the old original pick guard (may order a BWB 3 ply so its shinny, like Darwin's).

Black screws, black washer and nuts on the 2 pots, black knobs, New TI Blues Slider strings. May need wider black washer and nut for the switch.

Here she is with the pick guard off,

Image

Pick guard backside,
Image

and final (for now) product,

Image

not a great pic but you get the idea. I like it.
Alf Stutzmann
User avatar
Elwood
Posts: 2498
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:00 am
Location: Canada's Mexico

Re: Experiment, Help me Decide

Post by Elwood »

astutzmann wrote: I like it.
+1
Fumble fingers
Posts: 2153
Joined: Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:11 pm
Location: Dayton , Ohio

Re: Experiment, Help me Decide

Post by Fumble fingers »

I like it too !!
User avatar
darwinohm
Posts: 3218
Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:13 pm
Location: Minneapolis/St Paul

Re: Experiment, Help me Decide

Post by darwinohm »

Alf, it looks very nice. Did you polish the pickguard to a gloss? It looks glossy and very nice indeed. -- Darwin
User avatar
JagInTheBag
Posts: 1632
Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:46 pm
Location: Grayslake, IL

Re: Experiment, Help me Decide

Post by JagInTheBag »

The black screws and black knobs make all the difference. Sometimes it's the small details! Gorgeous.
User avatar
astutzmann
Posts: 678
Joined: Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:04 pm
Location: Niagara Canada

Re: Experiment, Help me Decide

Post by astutzmann »

no, I didn't polish it, must just be the camera and the sunlight.
Alf Stutzmann
Tomas83
Posts: 133
Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2015 5:55 pm
Location: NE corner of the 4 corners

Re: Experiment, Help me Decide

Post by Tomas83 »

My vote goes to the 2nd one (since you don't like the black) there's something appalling to me about the red tortoise pick guards :-)
the simpler, the better...
CMG Ashlee
Agile Hawker 727
BluGuitar Amp1 ME
User avatar
Katefan
Posts: 501
Joined: Fri May 07, 2010 2:34 pm
Location: Boca Raton

Re: Experiment, Help me Decide

Post by Katefan »

I like it but I'd ditch the black screws and put the chrome ones back in.

Cheers,
KF