Classic Asat Z3 Special Order reading code.

[Blussin]

I need your help for the G&L code in my Z3 pickup cavity . I'll try to have a pic of that.

http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/Yokil ... ort=3&o=14

Anybody understand these code.???

Your help would be much appreciate. Thanks in advance.

Just in case picture doesn't come out here's what is write on the sticker inside the cavity. (2 sticker)

First Sticker:

ASAT Z3 BLONDE EBONY #1

PH - TGN - GNUT - LT - VIBRATO - RC- NB - TB - TORT

SO: # 270079 LN #3

Second sticker:

270079 + 3 + B + SO

[KenC]

I can tell you most of them. It would be helpful to see a photo of the original neck for the others.

The first line should be obvious for the most part. "Ebony" is the original fretboard and "#1" is the neck profile.

As for the second line:

PH = painted headstock
TGN = tinted gloss neck
GNUT = Graph Tech nut
LT = Locking tuners
VIBRATO = Dual Fulcrum Vibrato
RC = ?????
NB = Neck bound
TB = Top bound
TORT = Tortoise shell pick guard
SO = Order number

I'm not sure about the rest, but believe they are for internal processing.

Ken

First Sticker:

ASAT Z3 BLONDE EBONY #1

PH - TGN - GNUT - LT - VIBRATO - RC- NB - TB - TORT

SO: # 270079 LN #3

Second sticker:

270079 + 3 + B + SO

[Blussin]

HI Ken, thanks for the infos, here's pictures of the complete guitar (complete gallery). It is a brand new 2008 plastic still on the guard. Obviously there is something's wrong because board is maple and there is no locking tuners. I will probably take off the neck to see if I can find something there.

http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/Yokil ... ort=3&o=11

Thanks again Ken.

[Fumble fingers]

if you would right click to copy your pictures , then paste on here your pict will show up with your post instead of just a link

[Blussin]

I'll try next time, I'm really not an internet specialist tough.

Regards

[louis cyfer]

HI Ken, thanks for the infos, here's pictures of the complete guitar (complete gallery). It is a brand new 2008 plastic still on the guard. Obviously there is something's wrong because board is maple and there is no locking tuners. I will probably take off the neck to see if I can find something there.

http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/Yokil ... ort=3&o=11

Thanks again Ken.

leaving the plastic on destroys the pickguard. try to take it off, but it maybe too late. did you leave it on yourself?

[Craig]

HI Ken, thanks for the infos, here's pictures of the complete guitar (complete gallery). It is a brand new 2008 plastic still on the guard. Obviously there is something's wrong because board is maple and there is no locking tuners. I will probably take off the neck to see if I can find something there.

http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/Yokil ... ort=3&o=11

Thanks again Ken.

Here's a couple of your photos:





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You must have bought this guitar used, right? The neck is not the original neck for an ASAT Z-3. It is for one of the ASAT Classic Series models.
Which also means that the serial number on the back of the headstock is for a different guitar. In the bottom photo I see a G&L gigbag. Was this included
with the purchase of this guitar, possibly along with the factory deluxe tolex case (which would have been an optional case instead of the plastic hardshell case and listed
on the tracking tag as "TOLEX CASE")?

I will try and find out the original serial number and where this guitar was first shipped to using the Sales Order number (SO). Also, let me know the serial number on
the neck (back of the headstock) and I will contact Dave McLaren with this information.

Was this bought from a private seller or from a G&L dealer?

[yowhatsshakin]

RC = ?????

RC = Rear (Body) Contour

As Craig mentions, you don't have the original neck, and as Ken indicated, from decoding your sticker it should have been a #1 neck with 12" radiused ebony fingerboard and painted, matching headstock. These ebony boards are fairly uncommon on G&L ASATs although it is an available option on any guitar for an up charge. The body date in the cavity indicates it is a '08 guitar. Strangely enough, although not the 'advertised' neck, the S/N on yours is commensurate with a neck made in the '08/'09 time frame. So if it was a repair, i.e. the guitar was sent back to the factory for a neck replacement, it must have happened pretty soon after the original purchase date. Otherwise, whoever bilked you out of the original neck must have had another ASAT laying around produced around the same time and swapped the necks before selling you the Z-3.

Good luck with finding answers to Craig's questions.

- Jos

[Blussin]

Craig,

I bought this guitar with a Comanche used from a private guy who bought 4 G&L in a pawn shop in California. It is not come from a dealer. Serial number on the neck is CLF49905

My Comanche is pretty rare too, it is a sample or something like that. Blackburst with a Z-Z-H configuraton, yes a Humbucker at the Bridge position from the factory.

Here's picture of my Comanche

http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/Yokil ... sort=3&o=1

Sorry for the link but I'm not able to post pics,

[guitar_ed]

Blussin,

The 'bucker is not a stock pickup for a Commanche. Any idea where it came from?

But that quilted maple is really nice. Really nice.

edg

[Blussin]

Ed, I know. It's kind of strange but maybe it was a try by the factory because that guitar never been molested, the plastic was still on the guard when I bough it. There is also no identification on the back of the pickup. Let me tell you that she is very dynamic and versatile. A real performing instrument.

This is my problem because I don't have any way to contact G&L with the serial number to have more infos on it. That's the main reason I've been on this website to try to have answers to my interrogation. Serial number on my Comanche is: CLF35595

[Blussin]

Anybody can help for the year production of my Comanche please. Serial number CLF35595 it's really hard to see on the heal neck.

Many thanks to all for information.

[yowhatsshakin]

Anybody can help for the year production of my Comanche please. Serial number CLF35595 it's really hard to see on the heal neck.

Many thanks to all for information.

Comparing it to the S/Ns on my instruments, your Comanche S/N could be around '04-'05. Since they were not used in order, that is about as exact as I can give it. But the stamp in the neck pocket of your Comanche (see included pic below) seems to read '2003' (or maybe '2007') for the year part.


Hope this helps,

- Jos

[Blussin]

Thanks Joe,It's really hard to tell by the neck pocket but it's look like 200? Maybe 2008 because my Z3 is a 2008 and they were both buy from the same guy.

But at G&L serial number means nothings versus the production year.???

[Craig]

Thanks Joe,It's really hard to tell by the neck pocket but it's look like 200? Maybe 2008 because my Z3 is a 2008 and they were both buy from the same guy.

But at G&L serial number means nothings versus the production year.???

See these posts in our G&L Knowledgebase, General G&L Questions sub-forum:

Serial number significance
How do I determine an instrument's age?

[Blussin]

Craig, is there any way to get in touch with people at G&L. I would really like to know the origin of the neck on my Z3 . Probably with the serial number they should know that.

Thanks.

Jean

[Craig]

Craig, is there any way to get in touch with people at G&L. I would really like to know the origin of the neck on my Z3 . Probably with the serial number they should know that.

Thanks.

Jean

From my previous post, I said:

I will try and find out the original serial number and where this guitar was first shipped to using the Sales Order number (SO). Also, let me know the serial number on
the neck (back of the headstock) and I will contact Dave McLaren with this information.

I am just waiting for you tell me the serial number on the neck and then I will contact Dave with both the SO# on the body and the serial number on the neck, to see
if he can find out the details on these.

[Blussin]

I already did my friend on previous post.

Craig,

I bought this guitar with a Comanche used from a private guy who bought 4 G&L in a pawn shop in California. It is not come from a dealer. Serial number on the neck is CLF49905

My Comanche is pretty rare too, it is a sample or something like that. Blackburst with a Z-Z-H configuraton, yes a Humbucker at the Bridge position from the factory.

Here's picture of my Comanche

[Craig]

I already did my friend on previous post.

Craig,

I bought this guitar with a Comanche used from a private guy who bought 4 G&L in a pawn shop in California. It is not come from a dealer. Serial number on the neck is CLF49905

My Comanche is pretty rare too, it is a sample or something like that. Blackburst with a Z-Z-H configuraton, yes a Humbucker at the Bridge position from the factory.

Here's picture of my Comanche

Sorry, somehow I missed your post with the S/N.

I just sent an email off to Dave asking if he can look these up and provide build detail and where they where shipped to.

Stay tuned.

[Craig]

Here's Dave reply back:

Hi Craig,


I see that sales order number 270079 dated February 4, 2008 for Supakorn Music in Bangkok. The order has that Z-3 on it as described on the tag he has in the photo. Looks like it shipped to them on October 17th, 2008.

I see CLF49905 is showing as an ASAT Classic Clear Orange with a maple fingerboard completed on March 17, 2008 but I don't see it as being shipped. It's possible that something was wrong with the guitar, other than the neck, and we needed a neck to be shipped as a replacement to Bangkok. I can't be certain of what actually happened, though. It's pretty odd that a Z-3 would end up with an ASAT Classic neck on it.

Thanks, Craig.

Dave

[Craig]

Ed, I know. It's kind of strange but maybe it was a try by the factory because that guitar never been molested, the plastic was still on the guard when I bough it. There is also no identification on the back of the pickup. Let me tell you that she is very dynamic and versatile. A real performing instrument.

This is my problem because I don't have any way to contact G&L with the serial number to have more infos on it. That's the main reason I've been on this website to try to have answers to my interrogation. Serial number on my Comanche is: CLF35595

I've asked Dave about this one, too.

Stay tuned.

[Blussin]

Craig,

Thank you so much. That explain some bizarre thing. I talk with the guy who I bought the guitar from and he told me that the guy from who he bought them in California was working at G&L plant at that time. That's probably explain lot of thing.

Once again thank you very much I really do appreciate these clarification.

[Blussin]

HI Craig, do you have a chance to get in touch with Dave for my Comanche.

Thanks in advance.

Have a nice week

Jean

[Craig]

HI Craig, do you have a chance to get in touch with Dave for my Comanche.

Thanks in advance.

Have a nice week

Jean

Dave and I exchanged some emails about it and I sent him some of your photos.
When he get's some time, he will review them and see what he can find out about it.
I am going to be away for most of this week, so I will not be able to follow up on this
until next week.

[Blussin]

OK Craig, I'll wait next week for infos,

Thanks

Jean

[Craig]

HI Craig, do you have a chance to get in touch with Dave for my Comanche.

Thanks in advance.

Have a nice week

Jean

Dave and I exchanged some emails about it and I sent him some of your photos.
When he get's some time, he will review them and see what he can find out about it.
I am going to be away for most of this week, so I will not be able to follow up on this
until next week.

Here's what Dave says about this Comanche:

Hi Craig,

I can't find that number, but it should be 2004 by proximity to other serial
numbers. The link didn't work; looks like it was truncated with the ... in
there. Hopefully he's got a shot under the pickguard.

As of now, I'm going to guess it was modded by a PO along the way.

Thanks, Craig.

I followed up with links to some of your photos and here's his latest reply:

Hi Craig,

Sorry I didn’t add anything to that last round we had on the 9th. I can’t say with certainty whether the guitar came with the humbucker from the factory, as I don’t see record of the guitar to begin with. It was apparently built off-line, meaning there’s no order number, nothing to go by. I still think it was built to test the staining of the top in Blackburst, but it’s the pickguard and humbucker I’m less confident in as that can be swapped easily. That said, I think it looks factory, including the humbucker. The pickguard saying “612 custom” appears to be from Chandler, the 612 being for a Legacy HB, and the word “custom” is for the two Z-coils in place of the single-coils.

Bottom line: I think this looks all factory, I just can’t verify it. Thanks, Craig.

Dave

Hope this helps.

[Blussin]

HI Craig,

Thank you so much man. Now I know what I have in my hand. These probably 2 guitars that was bought by an old employee

The Comanche is really a nice sounding instrument and the neck on it is a "V" contour. I love it. I just order a 3-ply (B-W-B) pickguard with a bridge routed humbucker to put on it in replacement of the tortoise who I tink is not the good one for this superb quilt top.

Thanks again I really do appreciate.

Kindest Regards

Jean