Comparison Of ASAT Equatorial/ ASAT Alnico Launch

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Comparison Of ASAT Equatorial/ ASAT Alnico Launch

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I had some spare time today and decided to make an A/B of these two guitars through my Custom 15.

For a background, The ASAT Equatorial Bluesboy is a semi hollow, f hole and very light in weight. and the ASAT Launch is Western Pine, a solid body and a bit heavier.
The Launch has the new Alnicos and the Bluesboy has a special wound Alnico in the bridge paired with the Seth Lover neck pickup.

I had formed opinions about these guitars unplugged and I was convinced that the Equatorial had more sustain and is extremely rich in overtones unplugged. I would described the Launch as a bit more focused unplugged.

It is hard to make objective comparisons but here is what I did. I used both channels on the custom 15 and swapped channels several times and I could not hear a difference between channels. The tone controls were set the same and the amp seemed neutral between channels. I put the guitars side by side on the table and plugged each of them in. Just before this I had adjusted both guitars so the pickups were balanced volume wise, bridge and neck. I only had to make slight pickup height adjustment on each. I set the tone controls the same (both treble all the way). The volume was about equal. I plucked each guitar, open strings with the same pick. All measurements are with my old ears.

The two are almost identical on the bridge pickup. The Bluesboy may be wound a bit hotter but these Alnicos have the jangle and overtones that are hard to describe other than sweet. In the center positions they sounded almost identical, the Bluesboy just a tad fatter. It is in the neck position that the tone changes. The Bluesboy is fatter, more low overtones noticeable on the lower strings. Not a big difference in the high e. The Bluesboy is really a smooth tone, not quite as jangly as the alnico and probably more focused. I was surprised how similar these guitars sound other than in the neck positions. I am sure that different pickup adjustments could alter the tone a bit but here is an example of different woods and build construction and they sound extremely similar to me other than the in the neck positions.

Here is the bottom line. They are very different animals unplugged. I was convinced the Equatorial Mahogany had more sustain. It turns out that may be deceiving due to the semi hollow, f holed body and you can hear it more clearly. The Alnico Launch has longer sustain. I knew it had great sustain but plugged in, it just keeps singing, especially the lower strings. Keep in mind that these are both Classic Bridges. I haven't measured the resistance of the Bluesboy bridge Alnico but will do so and report on it when I get around to it. It was an interesting experiment for me and I am convinced the pickups are 90% of the tone and the differences you notice playing uplugged are that only. Thought I would share for what it is worth. For those of you who are not familar with these G&Ls', here are pictures of them. By the way, I have really become an Alnico fan.-- Darwin

Alnico Launch

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Equatorial Mahogany Bluesboy

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Re: Comparison Of ASAT Equatorial/ ASAT Alnico Launch

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Great experiment Darwin :happy0065:

What Alnico pup is in your BB? Also a DiMarzio Area Hot T as in Port&Chocolate? Does is say anything on the spec sheet?

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Re: Comparison Of ASAT Equatorial/ ASAT Alnico Launch

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Great experiment, Darwin, and carefully done!
I find this area endlessly fascinating.
Would you agree that the string vibration that we hear acoustically is the vibrational energy that the string is losing to the air, and that what the pickup sees / "hears" is not necessarily the same thing?
We don't hear much acoustically from the tiny area of the string itself; if we fixed a string on a length of railway track or concrete, that would be so stiff as to be immovable, and then we would hear next to nothing. It's almost entirely the wooden body vibrating that we hear when we listen to an electric guitar acoustically, giving away parts of the string's energy to the air.
I believe we can get quite confusing information acoustically, and we actually learn how to interpret it, almost by gut hunch, after we've had some experience of trying unknown guitars.
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Re: Comparison Of ASAT Equatorial/ ASAT Alnico Launch

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Darwin, that's a nice looking pair of Asat's you have there! G&L, has been coming up with some interesting guitars lately. Unfortunately, there isn't a dealer near me and none within 200 miles that keeps any kind of inventory. I sure would like to try a few of the new ones.
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Re: Comparison Of ASAT Equatorial/ ASAT Alnico Launch

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Jos, the Alnico in the BB bridge was wound specifically to match the Seth Lover by G&L. I intend to measure the resistance of it and see what is different from the Launch bridge.

Nick, you bring up some interesting points that I am not qualified to answer but I suspect what we hear from the body can be quite different than what the poles in the pickup are sensing. The body responds to the strings differently.

Sprinter, I mentioned the other day that I think that G&L has been doing some magic in their marketing recently, especially considering the economy. They are coming up with some cool, interesting woods and colors. They are using creativity to make interesting guitars. Look at the recent offering of prototypes. There is creativity unlike the big G who seems to think the overpriced new artist models week after week will boost sales. I really like what they are doing even though it gets me in trouble at home! -- Darwin
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Re: Comparison Of ASAT Equatorial/ ASAT Alnico Launch

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Jos, I measured the Alnico pickup in the Bluesboy. It is 6.68K. The Seth Lover is 7.01K. The Alnico bridge in the Launch is 7.26 K. I also entered this in the Registry. -- Darwin