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Boogie Bill wrote:I like the 12" radius and the med. jum. frets myself, as I do quite a bit of bending. I played a vintage 1960 strat for many years and it took me no time at all to adapt to the flatter board. It's really comfy.
I think Fender's Roadworn Series has the big frets on a 7.25" radius neck, FYI. That might be something to check out.
Bill
those are different frets on the roadworns. 6105. not as tall and narrow.
6105 are very tall (.055", same as 6100s), just much wider. Very nice frets imo (but 6100 is nice too).
G&Ls 'medium jumbo' is 6100, which is jumbo to most companies. I don't see fret size compared with radius being an issue OP, it shouldn't make a difference. I like big frets, just make sure you aren't sharping notes when you fret em (aka don't push hard).
The only time I will ever go without locking tuners again is behind a OFR nut, and that is only because I don't NEED them (and still like them, but weight games and all that).
Boogie Bill wrote:I like the 12" radius and the med. jum. frets myself, as I do quite a bit of bending. I played a vintage 1960 strat for many years and it took me no time at all to adapt to the flatter board. It's really comfy.
I think Fender's Roadworn Series has the big frets on a 7.25" radius neck, FYI. That might be something to check out.
Bill
those are different frets on the roadworns. 6105. not as tall and narrow.
6105 are very tall (.055", same as 6100s), just much wider. Very nice frets imo (but 6100 is nice too).
G&Ls 'medium jumbo' is 6100, which is jumbo to most companies. I don't see fret size compared with radius being an issue OP, it shouldn't make a difference. I like big frets, just make sure you aren't sharping notes when you fret em (aka don't push hard).
The only time I will ever go without locking tuners again is behind a OFR nut, and that is only because I don't NEED them (and still like them, but weight games and all that).
you got your lions crossed. the 6105 is tall but narrow. the ones i have seen were .052 tall. i know they claim .055. the 6100 have all been at least .055. the 6000 is the one that is wider.
dogari wrote:the order will be from
EMP Music
Elftweg 48
4941 VP Raamsdonksveer
dogari.
This is the Dutch importer. It is not possible to order directly from them, you have the find yourself a dealer.
That way you can try a few G&L's, make your choice and buy one. Almost all of your questions are a matter of personal preferences.
Ivo wrote:This is the Dutch importer. It is not possible to order directly from them, you have the find yourself a dealer.
That way you can try a few G&L's, make your choice and buy one. Almost all of your questions are a matter of personal preferences.
Ivo
But you can still contact the importer for a list of dealers in NL. Saves you some searching. Then again, if Ivo would just tell you where he got his G&L. I mean, given the size of NL (Maastricht to Groningen is only about 3 hours by train), how far can it be ...
Ivo wrote:This is the Dutch importer. It is not possible to order directly from them, you have the find yourself a dealer.
That way you can try a few G&L's, make your choice and buy one. Almost all of your questions are a matter of personal preferences.
Ivo
But you can still contact the importer for a list of dealers in NL. Saves you some searching. Then again, if Ivo would just tell you where he got his G&L. I mean, given the size of NL (Maastricht to Groningen is only about 3 hours by train), how far can it be ...
- Jos
they feel very different about distances. 20 miles is far.
louis cyfer wrote:they feel very different about distances. 20 miles is far.
I know Louis! Being Dutch myself, I am keenly aware that drivng 2 hours in NL is a day trip whereas here in the US it is called a commute
Little anecdote on that subject. In my first year here in the US I joined the annual camping outing organized by the lab I was a post-doc at. It would involve driving from Seattle to Anacortes to take the ferry to Lopez Island. That initial drive takes you a tad more than an hour and a half. Driving the highways in Europe at 120 km/h (~75mph) would take you 180km (~112miles). So I told my driver/colleague that when starting in a suitable place in NL, namely Maastricht in the souther part, one would have crossed the border into Belgium, Luxembourg, and France with even a potential detour through Germany ... Put the proximity and size of some countries in Europe in some perspective. It is still amazing to me to realize in live in a state 4 times the size of my native country with abut a quarter of the number of people. Oh well.
Ivo wrote:This is the Dutch importer. It is not possible to order directly from them, you have the find yourself a dealer.
That way you can try a few G&L's, make your choice and buy one. Almost all of your questions are a matter of personal preferences.
Ivo
But you can still contact the importer for a list of dealers in NL. Saves you some searching. Then again, if Ivo would just tell you where he got his G&L. I mean, given the size of NL (Maastricht to Groningen is only about 3 hours by train), how far can it be ...
- Jos
OR he could use the link to all of the Dutch G&L dealers listed on the G&L website
which I provided in a previous post.
The DFS sounds completely different with Schaller locking tuners than it does with Sperzel non-locking tuners. You can make a DF with locking Sperzels sound like a DFS with locking Schallers if you have a vintage style tuner on the odd strings.
blargfromouterspace wrote:The DFS sounds completely different with Schaller locking tuners than it does with Sperzel non-locking tuners. You can make a DF with locking Sperzels sound like a DFS with locking Schallers if you have a vintage style tuner on the odd strings.
Regarding the tuners, we use Schallers and Sperzel, locking and unlocking versions of both.Although both have one anchor pin, the Sperzel is set further from the center than the Schaller, thus they are drilled differently. You would not be able to swap between the two.
Schaller has the “G&L” logo. Sperzel has their logo stamped in script.
Neither of the locking versions have the “G&L” logo.
Regarding the tuners, we use Schallers and Sperzel, locking and unlocking versions of both.Although both have one anchor pin, the Sperzel is set further from the center than the Schaller, thus they are drilled differently. You would not be able to swap between the two.
Schaller has the “G&L” logo. Sperzel has their logo stamped in script.
Neither of the locking versions have the “G&L” logo.
they have. currently however "Locking tuners are available on guitar models that do not already come standard with them. Made for G&L by Schaller of Germany, as are all tuners currently used on G&L guitars."
Craig wrote:
You only have two choices for a new USA Legacy:
Schaller non-locking (standard)
Schaller locking (optional)
Beside the fact I would rather order an S-500 than a Legacy, which has locking tuners anyway, I would go for the locking option on a new Legacy.
I've upgraded my 1994 Legacy with Schaller locking tuners. It had split shaft Schallers before. As you may keep the string winding number real low with split shafts, I would not upgrade again, as the advantage is not worth the cost, at least in my opinion. The current tuners are unfortunately not split shafts as far as I know.
Craig wrote:
You only have two choices for a new USA Legacy:
Schaller non-locking (standard)
Schaller locking (optional)
Beside the fact I would rather order an S-500 than a Legacy, which has locking tuners anyway, I would go for the locking option on a new Legacy.
I've upgraded my 1994 Legacy with Schaller locking tuners. It had split shaft Schallers before. As you may keep the string winding number real low with split shafts, I would not upgrade again, as the advantage is not worth the cost, at least in my opinion. The current tuners are unfortunately not split shafts as far as I know.
so to stay with the vintage that comes with the legacy and only upgrade the bridge from df to dfs?
louis cyfer wrote:
you got your lions crossed. the 6105 is tall but narrow. the ones i have seen were .052 tall. i know they claim .055. the 6100 have all been at least .055. the 6000 is the one that is wider.
Good catch, I wrote that both wrong and unclearly at other times. 6105 is tall and narrow, 6100 is tall and wide, 6000 is very tall and very wide. Good to know 6105 come out a little shorter, interesting even.
dogari wrote:yes or no?
i ask bekuz my dealer say vintage now you say Schaller non-locking
Make up your mind.
not vintage like klusons. you misunderstand the dealer. it is however a split post schaller, so it is like a vintage tuner in that regard. but with a tremolo you want the locking schaller tuners. that has been answered a few times. i am sure this is just a language barrier, but you do come off as rude in some of your posts. that is why people get impatient. also, we are all trying to help, but you do ask the same questions a few times over. at one point you are gonna just have to dive in and order it. some of these issues are not the end of the world, they can be remedied if you decide later you'd like it different. unfortunately there is no way around having to play it to find out if certain features are for you.
You need to contact the dealer from whom you will order from and ask them if you can specify Sperzel locking tuners.
G&L has used both Sperzel and Schaller tuners. The Schaller tuners are listed as being the one's they are currently using.
It's time for you to contact a dealer and work these details out with them. I don't see where we can help you any further.
The sooner you actually place your order, the sooner you will get your guitar and be able to show it off to us all.
Postby dogari » Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:52 pm
i will order Sperzel lockers and DFS bridge
I have one last question:
most of the guitars I see they have
fret 6100 jumbo on 9.5 or 12
and 6230 vintage fret on 7.25 or 7.50
Why not make guitars with Combination like 6100 fret on 7.50 or 7.25 radius
Should be a reason for it not?
Dogari, Craig has described the standard builds to you for particular models. Why don't you order the neck you want and specify 6100 frets. When I read the G&L website specs on frets, my impression is that you can order any frets you want for any neck that G&L makes on the Legacy model. I would order what you want and either they will build it or they will tell you that they can't. I think that whatever you order you will be happy with. This is a great product and I have both radius necks and both styles of frets and am happy with both. Most certainly no one here can tell you what is best for you. I have both Sperzel locking tuners and Schaller locking tuners on my different G&Ls and either tuner is fine. The difference in weight is not worth worrying about. It is a matter of which you personally prefer. Hope this helps-- Darwin
if this Combination 6100 fret on 7.50 or 7.25 radius is good
Why I do not see many guitars with this Combination?
I'm thinking of taking SS6230 on 7.50 G&L Vintage "C"
you have been answered many times over. you are not here looking for answers, you want to hear the answer you have in mind. when you don't get it, you keep asking the same thing over and over. at this point you are being a troll. someone as indecisive as you will not be happy, no matter what you order. trying to make the perfect decision with limited personal experience is not possible. so without actually trying out the different options, you are sol. people who don't play lead, mostly chords, generally like the 7.5 radius more . they also generally like the smaller frets. people who like to bend usually like larger frets, but generally also like a flatter radius. but there is nothing wrong with the smaller radius and larger frets. a bigger fret can always be dressed down if it's a problem without having to refret, so that is the better option if you don't know. if you are not a very good player, none of this will matter.
