Question on Invaders-->pickups

[thunder100]

Dear community

I am new Owner of this


Do any of you use a SC/HB/HB configuration?
If so how do you wire and which SC (neck) do you use?

Thanks

Roland

[SouthpawGuy]

Not sure if I understand the question, do you mean an actual single coil in the neck of your guitar ? As in replacing the existing Gotoh blade humbucker ? As far as I know the existing Gotoh blade humbuckers can be wired for true single coil operation. You could get a push pull pot on the volume or tone knob to do the switching.

[thunder100]

Not sure if I understand the question, do you mean an actual single coil in the neck of your guitar ? As in replacing the existing Gotoh blade humbucker ? As far as I know the existing Gotoh blade humbuckers can be wired for true single coil operation. You could get a push pull pot on the volume or tone knob to do the switching.

Hi yes there is Push/pull volume.Question is to change the GOTOH to a real SC (saw a picture like this) as the split GOTOH output is still high

Thanks

[sirmyghin]

You will unfortunately never get a good split sound out of a little dual rail like that, no reason you can't switch it though. I have never seen anyone do it however. Split buckers of any sort are no substitute for a good single coil.

[SouthpawGuy]

Not sure if I understand the question, do you mean an actual single coil in the neck of your guitar ? As in replacing the existing Gotoh blade humbucker ? As far as I know the existing Gotoh blade humbuckers can be wired for true single coil operation. You could get a push pull pot on the volume or tone knob to do the switching.

Hi yes there is Push/pull volume.Question is to change the GOTOH to a real SC (saw a picture like this) as the split GOTOH output is still high

Thanks

I'm not sure I'm understanding your current setup. So you have all three pickups being split using the push pull pot at the moment ?

You could try a DiMarzio Area pickup. They are noiseless and sound totally different to the Gotoh blade pickups in the Invader and Legacy Special. I have them in a Legacy with an Area 58 in the neck, they're medium to low output and very clear.

[Craig]

Hi yes there is Push/pull volume.Question is to change the GOTOH to a real SC (saw a picture like this) as the split GOTOH output is still high

Thanks

If the guitar has the stock wiring, the push/pull switch just splits the bridge humbucker, neither of the blade pickups are
wired for splitting.

Hope this helps.

[Boogie Bill]

It's too bad that the Invader doesn't come with the PTB control system of the Legacy, Comanche, S-500, and Legacy Special models. With the separate controls for the treble and bass, it is easy to get tones out of the Gotoh Blades that are close to a vintage alnico single coil. I have all of the guitars I mentioned and the Legacy Special is one of my favorites for that reason. I love the thick "woman-tone" you get from that neck position Gotoh Blade.

I would try different pickup heights before I did anything--try lowering the neck pickup as low as you can to add a little brightness and lessen the output. If you do decide to replace the neck pickup, be sure to keep the original. If you ever sell the guitar, the new owner might want to restore it to factory specs, and the Gotohs are really hard to come by.

I don't know if you'll really like the SC in the neck, because of the output difference, but you could try the vintaged-voiced flat-magnet Duncan SSL-2 for the neck. They make some higher-powered versions of this too. I have Duncan Texas Hot Antiquitys in a couple of guitars. That neck pickup is really sweet and warm--one of the best strat neck pickups I've heard.

I might see what the guys on the Duncan Forum would advise.

You can also do some tricks, like using less gain on your amp; and/or keeping your guitar volume low and then rolling up the volume and using a clean boost pedal to hammer the input for solos. If your amp has two inputs, like an old Fender, try the second low-gain input, and see what it sounds like. Sometimes, you have to "think outside the box".

And then, you might be a good candidate to get another G&L, like a Legacy. Really, one guitar can't do it all. Tell your wife you have our permission!!!

Good luck! And that's a BEAUTIFUL guitar!!

Bill

[thunder100]

Thanks all for getting in

As user of an ASAT Dlx and a Comanche I am just lacy.Recently I do some cover work and lacy as i am I dont want to change guitars (or haul several to gig place).But before I screw back and forward on a new guitar(which I really like like my other G&L's-->what a quality !!) I will try the pickupheight and take one of my Fender Strats(SC) with me.

Although realtively old and + 30 years of playing(with breaks) still I dont learn the lesson that there is NOT the one and only guitar which can play everything(as well as this amp doesnt exist yet) .It ends up as compromise and is never 100 % there(as my playing some-no most of the time)

Really, one guitar can't do it all. Tell your wife you have our permission!!!Bill

I will try but with 7 guitar's probalbly not the easiest task

anyway thanks for the suggestions !

Roland

by the way did every Comanche have the PTB control?

[Boogie Bill]

by the way did every Comanche have the PTB control?

Don't worry about getting lazy, Roland. We all do at some point. I take 5-6 guitars to a gig sometimes. I bought them, and I want to play them!

As to your Comanche question, most of the modern Comanches, say since 1992 or so, have the PTB. UNLESS, it is one of the Studio models that has the six mini-switches--I think those have a master volume and master tone. I'm not totally sure about the Leo-era Comanches.

Sorry, not much help.

Bill