What do you all think of this?

pauliewalnuts · Post by **pauliewalnuts** » Sat Apr 16, 2011 7:14 pm

http://liveassets.rationalpathinc.netdn ... nan_so.jpg

discuss....

my thoughts, WHY?? Looks like something that should be on the back of a microwave oven.

blargfromouterspace · Post by **blargfromouterspace** » Sat Apr 16, 2011 7:18 pm

I agree Paulie. That photo makes it looks particularly unflattering.

sirmyghin · Post by **sirmyghin** » Sat Apr 16, 2011 7:20 pm

Not liking them either. Haven't grown on me since it came up the first time. Not as tacky as a blackmachine but still blech.

Aussie · Post by **Aussie** » Sat Apr 16, 2011 9:07 pm

pauliewalnuts wrote:http://liveassets.rationalpathinc.netdna-cdn.com/usercontent/gear/2841598/p5_us0chtnan_so.jpg

discuss....

my thoughts, WHY?? Looks like something that should be on the back of a microwave oven.

As for Why, Darth provided an explanation in this thread - http://guitarsbyleo.com/FORUM/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=3216.

I understand and applaude the intention, but I don't think that the plate or the manner in which it attached quite achieves the intent.

cheers, Robbie

SouthpawGuy · Post by **SouthpawGuy** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:51 am

I haven't seen any "in the flesh", however any pics I've seen have provoked a similar response to the ops'.

jnnagel88 · Post by **jnnagel88** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 8:10 am

What could G&L improve or change in order to make that plate look better? Well, I don't know. I think it looks ok the way it is.

brianr0131 · Post by **brianr0131** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 8:25 am

I think the screws look too big or something. Maybe 4 tiny screws in the corners would look better. They're already machined and printed so they are what they are at this point. I like that they tried to do something a little different. It shows that they aren't just happy keeping things the way they were because "that's how we've always done it". I like that part a lot.

Post by **gitman001** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:37 am

I saw one last week with the new plate and i actually really dug it.... i didn't seem to stand out as much as it does in the pics. The pics really don't do it justice. Just one more nice little touch to make them even more unique - imho

sirmyghin · Post by **sirmyghin** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:48 pm

I think to improve it the screws schould be flush mount, and the plate should be recessed, even with the headstock face. It is far too much looking like an afterthought currently.

yowhatsshakin · Post by **yowhatsshakin** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 4:08 pm

sirmyghin wrote:I think to improve it the screws schould be flush mount, and the plate should be recessed, even with the headstock face. It is far too much looking like an afterthought currently.

+1. Route a cavity in the headstock to flush mount, and counter sink using flat head phillips screws. Then nothing sticks our from the surface you can hurt yourself on. Does not really matter to me the corners are rounded. Just wait for somebody to seriously scrape his or her hand and see what the reaction will be

- Jos

darwinohm · Post by **darwinohm** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 4:13 pm

Paulie, I did a post about this when these were first shown. This is when Darth explained the rational for doing this. I understand their perspective and the reaction to the serial number plate was mixed. It is a show stopper for me. I will order a custom at some point only if the serial number plate is not attached and no holes in the back of the headstock. I would want the serial number plate included in the envelope. I suspect that this request would probably be denied. We all have to make choices. Your are right. It belongs on the back of a microwave and not on the headstock of the finest guitar on the planet. Sorry, but I have not changed my mind.-- Darwin

pauliewalnuts · Post by **pauliewalnuts** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 4:18 pm

yes I agree, bad move. The first thing that people can't get over is the headstock, wait till they turn it over! Gonna be a little harder to convert those "Fender" guys now.

blargfromouterspace · Post by **blargfromouterspace** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 5:13 pm

I've been thinking about this. Here's a list of things I have found wrong with it in order of importance to me

1) There's too much information on it. Does it really need to say 'serial number' on it? I think people can deduce that for themselves

2) The serial number is in a horrible font etched out of an unsightly black rectangle. It looks much too 'computer-y' to be nice. In fact it's like the serial number on the back of a Peavey amp.

3) The screws make it look like an afterthought.

4) It's not working with the birthmark on the neck. Why not use the plate to cover it?

5) It clashes with the chrome tuners and screws. This is a huge oversight - ever see a guitar with chrome pickups and gold hardware :sick:

6) Does it need to say G&L on it? It says that on the front of the headstock.

7) The more I look at it the less I like it.

In summary I feel that it needs to be simplified in order to better suit its position on the guitar.

Darth, I think it's a very good idea to have this sort of thing on the guitar but it needs a makeover.

sirmyghin · Post by **sirmyghin** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 5:47 pm

yowhatsshakin wrote:
sirmyghin wrote:I think to improve it the screws schould be flush mount, and the plate should be recessed, even with the headstock face. It is far too much looking like an afterthought currently.
+1. Route a cavity in the headstock to flush mount, and counter sink using flat head phillips screws. Then nothing sticks our from the surface you can hurt yourself on. Does not really matter to me the corners are rounded. Just wait for somebody to seriously scrape his or her hand and see what the reaction will be

- Jos

Had an old mustang style 2 barrel bridge on my first bass. I went and found the cover one day (was my dads bass) and rust or not it went on. It was the day after I tore the meat of my thumb apart on a bridge stud. YEOUCH.

meowmix · Post by **meowmix** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 6:09 pm

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Ahryn · Post by **Ahryn** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 6:28 pm

I agree that it looks more then a little out of place as is... but with all this talk of flat mounting it I have to wonder if there is any way that the serial plate can't be recessed in and maybe clearcoated over? that way it would seem like part of the neck instead of something screwed on. the real trick would be how to carry the serial number over onto any replacement necks... either way I am psyched for when my first G&L comes in Serial plate or not.

pauliewalnuts · Post by **pauliewalnuts** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 6:34 pm

Just put everything back like the old 3 bolt neck plate and use it already, case closed.
Heck, even bring back that little gold sticker on the neck plate too. THAT was classic.

Loobster · Post by **Loobster** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:23 am

It's a bit obnoxious but doesn't bother me too much. I like "The Birthplace Of Bolt On".

Martin S · Post by **Martin S** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:32 am

blargfromouterspace wrote:I've been thinking about this. Here's a list of things I have found wrong with it in order of importance to me

1) There's too much information on it. Does it really need to say 'serial number' on it? I think people can deduce that for themselves

2) The serial number is in a horrible font etched out of an unsightly black rectangle. It looks much too 'computer-y' to be nice. In fact it's like the serial number on the back of a Peavey amp.

3) The screws make it look like an afterthought.

4) It's not working with the birthmark on the neck. Why not use the plate to cover it?

5) It clashes with the chrome tuners and screws. This is a huge oversight - ever see a guitar with chrome pickups and gold hardware.

6) Does it need to say G&L on it? It says that on the front of the headstock.

7) The more I look at it the less I like it.

In summary I feel that it needs to be simplified in order to better suit its position on the guitar.

Darth, I think it's a very good idea to have this sort of thing on the guitar but it needs a makeover.

I fully agree with Jamie and I can only repeat what he said: "Dave, it needs a makeover!".

Too bad I did not order my guitar earlier and now have to accept the new serial number plate, whether I like it or not. I did ask my dealer to check with G&L to have it put in a separate bag with the screws and not mount it to the headstock though. Let's see...

Muleya · Post by **Muleya** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 6:54 am

While I agree that it does look a bit like an afterthought as it is now, I've had my new Legacy HB for about two months now, and honestly, the only time I ever think about it is when I read these posts on the forum! For one thing, I hardly ever look at the back of the headstock! I can't remember the last time I noticed it! So to me, it's not a big deal.

However, I do agree that if it was inset into the wood, and attached with smaller, countersunk flat-head screws, it would LOOK much better...more intentional and classier. Having it under the clear coat would be cool, to, though as mentioned, would pose a problem if wanting to move it to another neck...but honestly, how often does that happen?

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