Hi, new to the forum here.
I have a mid 90's 3-bolt neck S-500, which I love. But wanted to ask if there is a way to space the strings out a little wider like the Mayer strat is. It seems a little too close for me and I end up muting (not on purpose) some strings.
Does anyone have similar preference and have done anything to encounter this issue? Or any suggestions?
Thank you.
String spacing on mid 90's S-500
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Re: String spacing on mid 90's S-500
I have a 1996 S-500 and, yes, the strings are pretty close together. They have to be though, because the neck is very narrow at the nut. I installed a replacement Graphtech nut which has a standard strat string spacing, but the high and low E strings tend to fall off the fret board with this arrangement. So I ended up putting the old nut back.
I intend to put another Graphtech nut back in and cut it to the same width as the original nut. I like the way the everything stays in tune with Graphtech.
In the end you'll end up getting used to the tight spacing. Don't give up!
I intend to put another Graphtech nut back in and cut it to the same width as the original nut. I like the way the everything stays in tune with Graphtech.
In the end you'll end up getting used to the tight spacing. Don't give up!
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Re: String spacing on mid 90's S-500
Thank you for your reply.
Yes the neck by the nut is narrow. I guess I need to find a guitar with wider neck at the top. First string always seems to be falling off the neck if I'm not careful.
I guess I'll just have to adjust.
Yes the neck by the nut is narrow. I guess I need to find a guitar with wider neck at the top. First string always seems to be falling off the neck if I'm not careful.
I guess I'll just have to adjust.
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Re: String spacing on mid 90's S-500
I don't exactly remembet but my S-500 is a 94 or 97 model. Its nut spacing is at 1.5/8 (if I measured correctly) and noticed that all my guitars are 1.5/8, which is finally quite a standard nut spacing. What do you call narrow?
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Re: String spacing on mid 90's S-500
My fingers feel more cramped in versus Mayer strat and the Tele that I've played.
I read the nut spacing and it's very minor in terms of it being more narrow that the Fenders but I definitely feel it.
I read the nut spacing and it's very minor in terms of it being more narrow that the Fenders but I definitely feel it.
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Re: String spacing on mid 90's S-500
I have an early 2000's legacy hb and a 09' s-500 and there is definitly a difference. The s-500 has a wider string spacing at the bridge and feels the same as my strat. The other one feels a bit narrow for me, but you do get used to it. But like you, I prefer the wider "normal" feeling string spacing. I think the only option is to buy a new tremolo with wider spacing since they don't sell saddles idividually. They're like 90 bucks if I remember right.
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Re: String spacing on mid 90's S-500
Do you play with fingers or pick? It doesn't really matter--I'm just curious.
I know G&L does make some optional necks that are wider. You might want to check with your dealer to see if it possible to have a wider neck retro-fitted to your guitar--or consider ordering a new guitar from the factory with the wide-neck option.
I had a Gibson ES-150DCN back in the '70s that had a a 1-9/16" neck. That was too narrow for me to comfortably chord on. I was much younger then, and it took me a while to figure why that guitar wasn't working for me. It was terrific for single note leads, but not for chords. If you have large hands, the 1-5/8" #1 neck can be too narrow at the nut.
I switch between the G&Ls 1-5/8"'; Martin and Gibson necks at 1-11/16"; my Taylor 710 with its 1-3/4"; and my twelve-strings also have a wider nut. I'm used to switching back and forth all the time, between big necks (like my Gibson Historic '58 Plaintop--baseball bat!) and super-slim G&L necks to the modified V-neck of my Martin HD-28V, and the 1960 "Slim-Taper" necks on a couple of my Gibsons. With the constant switching of guitars, adjusting to the various necks is almost more mental than physical. After playing the G&Ls, the '58 LP feels HUGE--but I take a deep breath, and deal with it. And a lot nights, it can feel a bit weird going back to the Number ONE Legacy. But i put my mind to it, and I know I can adapt.
Now some folks have problems adapting to close string spacing at the bridge, especially if they are acoustic finger-pickers. If you are using a pick, there is hope. What you can do in the case of a Legacy, is PRACTICE. I think people under-estimate the power of practice to develop the correct muscle memory to tackle these situations. Think about this, if you were stranded on a desert island for a years, with that being your only source of solace and recreation--you'd learn to master it. And when you got rescued, a wider-spaced guitar would probably feel very strange indeed. Sometimes it's easier to just buy new gear, LOL; but you should put the work in first. Make sure you're not dumping the guitar prematurely.
Consider two of my favorite Strat-wielding guitarists: Jimi Hendrix and Bonnie Raitt. Jimi had big hands and long fingers--and played narrow neck models. Bonnie has the small hands with feminine fingers--yet plays a vintage Strat with a bigger neck.
My attitude is to not defeat myself. If the other guy can do it, well, then I can too!
Good luck!
Bill
I know G&L does make some optional necks that are wider. You might want to check with your dealer to see if it possible to have a wider neck retro-fitted to your guitar--or consider ordering a new guitar from the factory with the wide-neck option.
I had a Gibson ES-150DCN back in the '70s that had a a 1-9/16" neck. That was too narrow for me to comfortably chord on. I was much younger then, and it took me a while to figure why that guitar wasn't working for me. It was terrific for single note leads, but not for chords. If you have large hands, the 1-5/8" #1 neck can be too narrow at the nut.
I switch between the G&Ls 1-5/8"'; Martin and Gibson necks at 1-11/16"; my Taylor 710 with its 1-3/4"; and my twelve-strings also have a wider nut. I'm used to switching back and forth all the time, between big necks (like my Gibson Historic '58 Plaintop--baseball bat!) and super-slim G&L necks to the modified V-neck of my Martin HD-28V, and the 1960 "Slim-Taper" necks on a couple of my Gibsons. With the constant switching of guitars, adjusting to the various necks is almost more mental than physical. After playing the G&Ls, the '58 LP feels HUGE--but I take a deep breath, and deal with it. And a lot nights, it can feel a bit weird going back to the Number ONE Legacy. But i put my mind to it, and I know I can adapt.
Now some folks have problems adapting to close string spacing at the bridge, especially if they are acoustic finger-pickers. If you are using a pick, there is hope. What you can do in the case of a Legacy, is PRACTICE. I think people under-estimate the power of practice to develop the correct muscle memory to tackle these situations. Think about this, if you were stranded on a desert island for a years, with that being your only source of solace and recreation--you'd learn to master it. And when you got rescued, a wider-spaced guitar would probably feel very strange indeed. Sometimes it's easier to just buy new gear, LOL; but you should put the work in first. Make sure you're not dumping the guitar prematurely.
Consider two of my favorite Strat-wielding guitarists: Jimi Hendrix and Bonnie Raitt. Jimi had big hands and long fingers--and played narrow neck models. Bonnie has the small hands with feminine fingers--yet plays a vintage Strat with a bigger neck.
My attitude is to not defeat myself. If the other guy can do it, well, then I can too!
Good luck!
Bill
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Re: String spacing on mid 90's S-500
This has been an interesting thread and Bill makes a good point and I will relate my experience. One of my favorite all time songs has been Wildwood Flower and Chet did a fine job. I play that song in the key of C. I worked on it over and over and had the mechanics down but had trouble with string buzz from my fingers between the strings. I have a PRS with the wide fat neck and would play the song on that. It turns out that Wildwood Flower is one of our best crowd pleasers and Steve does a harmony part with me. My point is that now that I have performed this song many times, I can play it on any of my guitars. Last time I performed it on a 52 Tele reissue, I play it on a G&L every morning. That is what practice has done for me. I have discovered that what used to be difficult , becomes easy. Practice has certainly paid off for me. I bet that you will adapt to the nut on the S-500 if you use it a lot. If you widen the nut spacing the strings get too close to the edge of the neck and slide off. Although, in the end I am an advocate of buying more guitars.-- Darwin
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Re: String spacing on mid 90's S-500
Are you?darwinohm wrote:Although, in the end I am an advocate of buying more guitars.-- Darwin