why doean't mine say "guitars by leo"??

[jason]

i have an asat z3.
i've noticed MOST of them say "guitars by leo" under the G&L decal. mine doesn't.

how come??

[Craig]

i have an asat z3.
i've noticed MOST of them say "guitars by leo" under the G&L decal. mine doesn't.

how come??

From the G&L website

With guitars by leo decal:


Without guitars by leo decal:


Sorry, I don't know the reason behind this. Though, I have a theory that the black lettering would not
show clearly on the Blue Flake headstock, so they used a G&L decal without it.

It's on my list to talk about with Malcolm (Master Painter), as he is the one who applies the decals on
the headstocks. I hope to visit to the G&L Factory some time in December.

Stay tuned.

[Craig]

i have an asat z3.
i've noticed MOST of them say "guitars by leo" under the G&L decal. mine doesn't.

how come??

From the G&L website

G&L decal with guitars by leo:


G&L decal without guitars by leo:


Sorry, I don't know the reason behind this. Though, I have a theory that the black lettering would not
show clearly on the Blue Flake headstock, so they used a G&L decal without it.

It's on my list to talk about with Malcolm (Master Painter), as he is the one who applies the decals on
the headstocks. I hope to visit to the G&L Factory some time in December.

Stay tuned.

[jason]

heres one WITH it though.

i just dont understand why some have it and some dont

[jason]

here's one even with black type

[Craig]

Well, so much for my theory.

Guess we'll just have to wait till after my trip to the factory in December.

[jason]

it doesn't have anything to do with being or not being made in the USA does it?

[jason]

i wonder if i could just call G&L and ask them?

[Jim P]

I have a Legacy without the "Guitars by Leo," and I've seen quite a few USA G&L guitars like this as well. I posed this very same question on the forum a few years ago, and no one really had an answer as to why this is. I guess I just accepted it as such and never really bothered to think about it again. Although, now that you ask, why is that?

[Craig]

it doesn't have anything to do with being or not being made in the USA does it?

No, and didn't we already determine your Z-3 was USA built? FYI, the Z-3 model is a USA only model.

Jim's post got me to go back to the archives and a quick search of the 2008 posts turned up the answer
from Dave McLaren (aka Darth Invader). Here is his response:

"It's not missing, it's just that not all models have the "Guitars by Leo" subscript beneath the logo.
We actually have different sized G&L logos depending on the models, and some did have the GbL
subscript and some didn't. Eventually, they'll all have the GbL subscript, but it's the world's longest
phase-in.
See, some parts were bought in such huge quantities by Leo that we're still running on them.
Take the SC-2 that's back: Those headstock decals are NOS. And those 3-position toggle switches
on the SC-2, and back on the Super, Junior and others, well they're also NOS back to the '80s and
I suppose the G-200. Welcome to G&L. ;- )

Dave"

So, there you go. And they are STILL in the phase-in.

Hope this helps ease your concerns.

[jason]

sweet guys thanks for all the info!

[Muleya]

Yeah, my '98 Legacy doesn't have it. Hopefully the one I'm ordering will!!

[willross]

Most of mine don't. My S-500 is also missing the triangular graphic:



I've since replaced the stock string tree w/ a Tusq. Now it's the only one I've seen w/ a white(bone color) string tree!


Cheers,

Will

[BillEvans1956]

Hi all,

I raised a very similar question a while back: http://guitarsbyleo.com/FORUM/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=2431

Curious to know why, but Craig's answer below goes some way to answering that one now.

Thanks.

Bill