Sun Mar 27, 2016 12:23 pm
Sun Mar 27, 2016 1:40 pm
FZTNT wrote:So I found this Invader in pretty nice shape. Got it home, played as I might expect it to and am quite happy. It needed new strings so while I was at it I took the neck off and there was no date stamp in the neck pocket. The neck itself is stamped July 17th 1986 and the serial number suggests a 1986 production date. What I am wondering is how often back then did a guitar get away without a date stamp. I know it happens but I was somewhat disappointed when I cracked this thing open to discover almost no markings at all under the hood. Just a big blue 4. I will post pics a bit later.
Tom
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yowhatsshakin wrote: At times the date stamp is hard to read or has disappeared entirely due to work done in the pocket, drill holes, and/or paint/Sharpie residue.
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BrockLee wrote:Does any one know if the system in place during G&L was the same as CLF Research/Music Man? In the earlier days it was not a production date. It was the date the body or neck was completed and passed QC in the wood shop and was ready to move on to the paint department. I always wondered if G&L maintained the same system.
Wed Apr 27, 2016 7:41 am
FZTNT wrote:Not sure I want to pull the Kahler trem but I suppose it's only the four screws. The Pups are easy enough too. Maybe I'll pull them all and give it a nice polish/buff. Regular car wax works ok on this finish doesn't it? It already has some circular swirl marks like you might see on a car finish. Any recommendation for a polisher/cleaner? I have some Music Nomad cleaner/polish/wax stuff that seems to be oily water more than anything else. It really has no polishing component. Maybe I should just leave it alone though, it's not gunky or scratched up any. I figured while it was apart I might do what I can from a wax and protection perspective. I did the walnut oil treatment to the ebony FB and it looks brand new.
I have seen those price gun type date stamps in other photos. Always thought it was an after market thing rather that a factory date stamp. I'll look for one though. Otherwise there does not appear to be any other work or fiddling inside the neck pocket that would have removed or obscured the typical date stamps. I'll bust the thing wide open and se what I find...
Tom
FZTNT wrote:Thanks Ken and Jos,
I'm not so much worried as curious. There is a lot to learn about these guitars and you guys are valuable references for sure.
Speaking of locking nuts (insert deeznuts joke here) I see quite a few of this style guitar that had original locking nuts and fine tune vibrato bridges both G&L and Kahler, with the locking nut removed. What is the thought process behind this? Does it mess with the tunability at all? I know that there has to be a certain angle between the nut and the end of the string but is this just to keep the string from slipping out of the groove in the nut or is there a intonation aspect involved. I have the pieces for my yellow Invader and will probably put them back on and wonder if I should get them for this red Invader too. I see them for sale from time to time. What are the general thoughts on this?
Thanks, Tom
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Copper Coyote wrote:Interesting about the varying fade on your guitar. I wonder if the previous owner stored it by a window that had something blocking the incoming sunlight, like a tree or a bush?
Fri Apr 29, 2016 5:03 pm
Fumble fingers wrote:Copper Coyote wrote:Interesting about the varying fade on your guitar. I wonder if the previous owner stored it by a window that had something blocking the incoming sunlight, like a tree or a bush?
I wonder about that too ..... I have a mid 90's S500 listed as white from the factory but it looks more like Vintage white that is yellowed quite a bit , but some corners and edges of the neck pocket are even more yellow than other area's ...... I've cleaned it thinking maybe tobacco stains but there are no signs of tobacco stains or burns anywhere on it and it won't clean off .... it's just the way it is somehow
Fri Apr 29, 2016 6:28 pm