Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:17 pm
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Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:12 pm
FZTNT wrote:The Comanche would suit you well. You can pretty much get any sound possible (no BS) and those Z-Coil pickups are dead silent. The S-500 can be noisy just as any single coil can be un less you get an HSS and stick to the hum bucker.
Just my tuppence...
Tom
Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:46 am
Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:59 am
lefty_major wrote:I pulled the trigger on a Legacy Special a few months ago and it is due to arrive early next week. My understanding is the pickups are silent and you can get some LP style humbucker tones as well, which was one of the reasons I got one.
Boogie Bill has a few posts out here were he provides some nice descriptions and his thoughts on the various G&L S-style guitars.
http://guitarsbyleo.com/FORUM/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1329
viewtopic.php?f=36&t=10830&hilit=boogie+bill
Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:51 am
FZTNT wrote:The Comanche would suit you well. You can pretty much get any sound possible (no BS) and those Z-Coil pickups are dead silent. The S-500 can be noisy just as any single coil can be un less you get an HSS and stick to the hum bucker.
Just my tuppence...
Tom
Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:01 am
DanDoulogos wrote:FZTNT wrote:The Comanche would suit you well. You can pretty much get any sound possible (no BS) and those Z-Coil pickups are dead silent. The S-500 can be noisy just as any single coil can be un less you get an HSS and stick to the hum bucker.
Just my tuppence...
Tom
I agree with everything Tom said, including, and perhaps especially, the no BS part.
I picked up a Comanche Tribute last summer and it has become my #1 go-to guitar when I play out. It is quiet in every configuration, and though it has it's own tone, yet it can produce any sound I've ever tried to get out of it. I prefer my Comanche (Tribute) to the (American) Legacy I have. Both are great, but the Comanche has proven itself to be decisively the better guitar in every conceivable way.
Not putting down my Legacy - I'm just being honest. The Comanche has just been that good.
Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:31 am
rauchman wrote:
Great info....thanks. What is it about your Comanche that you see as "better" than the US Legacy?
Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:21 pm
DanDoulogos wrote:rauchman wrote:
Great info....thanks. What is it about your Comanche that you see as "better" than the US Legacy?
Let's see how can I quantify this? It's all going to come down to the Z-Coil pickups.
There are other noiseless pickups - I still have the Fender Strat Plus I bought new in the eighties. It came with noiseless Lace Sensors pickups (Golds), and though they do reduce the hum, they likewise seem to deaden the tone a little at the same time.
Now if those noiseless pickups were MFD, I expect that I wouldn't seem to experience the same tone-loss across the spectrum in my Lace Sensors as I do now, since the MFDs will suck more tone out of the strings by virtue of the better managed magnetic field. But the Z-coils have two things going for them (three if you count the MFDs) that normal noiseless pickups do not - and this is where the genius of Leo Fender shines - they have split the coil and offset it so that instead of having one coil closer to the strings than the other, they both serve their own triplet of string at the same height - and because the coils are offset - they can reverse the poles between coils, without losing sound when you bend the third and fourth strings.
It helps that there is a toggle that pulls in the neck pickup in any configuration, so you can play like a tele if you want.
Now, having said that, what you get is a guitar that sucks every nuance out of the strings, without losing any signal in doing so, or having various harmonics in the signal, washed out by the hum.
The first time you play one, you'll be wondering what's missing? It's the hiss. All you hear is the guitar, that can be a little off-putting at first, since we typically crank the bass and treble cuts wide open the first time we play, and we're used to a signal that mixes hiss and guitar. When it isn't there, it can be almost jarring. It doesn't sound like you expect it ought to... It isn't wrong, or worse, it is just pure, naked, signal.
When you dress it up with some effects - that is when you realize how (a) getting rid of all that noise, and (B) having a more nuanced tone (because of the MFDs), makes your guitar sound incredible through any effects you throw at it.
I've played lot of guitars in the past 30 years. I haven't tried every guitar known to man, but I can tell you, I can do more with my Comanche than I could with any other guitar I have owned/played. I haven't found any tone I couldn't nail on my Comanche.
Mileage may vary, but I for one can't praise the Comanche enough. I like my other guitars, but since I've got the Comanche, it's the only guitar I gig now, it just keeps on giving.
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JagInTheBag wrote:Unless of course they had one that looked like this:
G&L Comanche by Patrick Krook, on Flickr