Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:04 pm
Mon Dec 26, 2016 10:25 pm
througheacheye wrote:Hi G&L community- My name is David and I've been playing since I was 16. I'm 31 now with a family and lots of spare time to waste dicking around with the guitar, and as a result my guitar playing interest and ability has increased significantly. Two years ago my wife bought me a Jackson JM-22 Dinky for our anniversary. This was my first electric in 8 years. The guitar looks and sounds fantastic, but I found myself slowly gravitating towards types of music that aren't suitable for the two-humbucker beast of tone. My interest in classic rock and psychedelic rock skyrocketed as I explored different playing styles and fuzz tones. Following classic rockers like The Kinks, Hendrix, Cream, as well as modern-day music such as King Gizzard and the Wizard Lizard, Black Keys, Thee Oh Sees, I found that I just could not get a varied enough tone with the Jackson. Everything sounded very saturated- and the mid and high tones very muddy.
I began to seek out single pickup coiled guitars. I looked around for a long time before finding the HSS Fender Tele configurations. One day in a local music shop I found a G&L ASAT 'S'. I didn't know <censored word> about G&L but after looking into it became fascinated by the story and the ASAT 'S'. It had everything I wanted - a hardtail so I could explore different tunings without having to reset a Floyd Rose or other tremolo, a great look and a three pickup configuration. I've been searching Ebay and Reverb ever since for a deal- but it seems like most ASAT 'S' are a bit too far out of my budget, retailing around $1500 or more.
Today I went back to Starving Musician (in Berkeley) and the ASAT 'S' was still there. It looked neglected, with a dirty pick guard, gunk on the tuners, and the strings completely dead and flat. About the guitar:
ASAT 'S' Serial G051744 marked as "circa 1995," three-tone sunburst with upgraded pickups and sperzel locking tuners.
You can see the album on imgur here: http://imgur.com/a/KAXD8
My typical signal chain is simple - Fuzz Factory into Cathedral Reverb and I'm playing through a Dean Markley K-50 solid-state practice amp on the clean channel. I found the fuzz factory made the pickups absolutely scream- there is almost too much clarity and high end, and a lot of noise. I switched to a http://www.spruceeffects.com/effects/saltwater-fuzz/ Spruce Effects salt water fuzz- a dual germanium fuzz with a tone knob and a nice gain circuit. Through this the guitar sounded very well balanced with a tone of mid and upper range clarity. I couldn't be happier.
I do have a few questions - I'm unsure whether this is a good place to ask them or whether I should head over to the '92 to present index and start a thread. I am going to register it but I am not going to disassemble it for the neck and body dates for a bit- I want to play it and use it. So far it does need a bit of neck adjustment for anything lower than Standard E tuning, and the volume pot is noisey. But not show stoppers
Thanks for stopping by and having a look! Let me know what you think of the guitar, if there are any interesting trivia, I'd love to know more!
Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:22 am
The original factory pickups are G&L MFD Jumbo single coil pickups. A previous owner replaced the pickguard and pickups on your guitar. There is no ASAT 'S' model which G&L built. There was/is the ASAT Classic 'S' which first came out as a Custom Creations Special Build (2004-2007) and then
became a standard production model in 2008, see: Production List of G&L Instruments (USA) and List of Regular Production ASAT-style guitars (USA).
Tue Dec 27, 2016 10:57 am
Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:35 pm
FZTNT wrote:This does look odd. Is it just a modified ASAT III from '97 - '98 like the one below?
Tue Dec 27, 2016 7:30 pm
througheacheye wrote:Yo dude! I don't think so as this has a 3 bolt neck with serial # G051744 and all models '97 or later seem to have 4 bolt necks with CL or CLF serial #s. http://i.imgur.com/IaYa1D1.jpgThat is a beaut of a guitar and a lot of things look very similar, just not the serial.
I've been inspecting it a little more closely since it's heritage is somewhat murky, and the neck/ head stock appear in great shape. I haven't adjusted the neck at all but at the very least the truss isn't stripped. That's something! The only suspect thing I've seen thus far is the tuning locks - the first two (low e and A) and last string lock in a clockwise direction, the rest in a counter clockwise direction. Heh.
Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:12 am
througheacheye wrote:FZTNT wrote:This does look odd. Is it just a modified ASAT III from '97 - '98 like the one below?
Yo dude! I don't think so as this has a 3 bolt neck with serial # G051744 and all models '97 or later seem to have 4 bolt necks with CL or CLF serial #s. http://i.imgur.com/IaYa1D1.jpgThat is a beaut of a guitar and a lot of things look very similar, just not the serial.
I've been inspecting it a little more closely since it's heritage is somewhat murky, and the neck/ head stock appear in great shape. I haven't adjusted the neck at all but at the very least the truss isn't stripped. That's something! The only suspect thing I've seen thus far is the tuning locks - the first two (low e and A) and last string lock in a clockwise direction, the rest in a counter clockwise direction. Heh.
Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:24 am
FZTNT wrote:
No big deal but the guitar I posted the photo of is a 3-bolt with the mysterious "B" serial number that used mis-stamped guitar neck plates so as to not waste money. If you ignore the B it's only a few hundred guitars away from yours. So my guess is still a modified ASAT III from '97 or so.
Tom
Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:59 am
Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:29 am
FZTNT wrote:I am not sure that they ran out of the G plates. It's just that they had some mistakenly stamped B prefix plates and just used them when they pulled a neck plate out of the box to use.
You mention the black coating and it's referred to as crinkle coat. It was standard on some and an option on other guitars but typically you would have matching hardware on the guitar with the exception of the tuners. I don't recall any crinkle coat tuners but they do make black ones. It's like powder coat.
One thing that is odd and I would like to hear from others, Are all the B prefix neck plates black crinkle coat? It seems that where the bridge and control plate are shiny chrome, the neck plate, and in most cases the spring cover match. However, my ASAT III is chrome everywhere but the neck plate.
Anyone have a chrome B plate? Maybe I will start a new thread...good luck with your guitar...buy more!!
Tom
Wed Dec 28, 2016 2:16 pm
througheacheye wrote:That's awesome! I read that they used 'B' serial neck plates for guitars when they ran out of the 'G' neck plates. So it may or may not be close in actual build as the G would signify a different serial entirely.
How do you like your ASAT III? Have you modified it in any way?
I am still awaiting to see if Craig can talk to G&L and get any specifics from the serial number. And for me to wear out the current strings (shouldn't be long!) so I can also remove the pick guard and get a date from the body. It does look like the same hardware from his link above- where the ASAT Special and regular have been swapped. It has a black bridge and a black controls cover with black knobs. It almost looks like the black comes from the hardware being wrapped in vinyl or plastic-wrapped or something. I posted a close up picture of the bridge and you should be able to see the texture.
Dave McLaren wrote:Hi Craig,
I found G051744 in the computer system. It shows as ASAT Sunburst Rosewood, shipped on 12/4/96 to Cascio Music in San Francisco.
Thanks a lot, Craig!
Dave
Wed Dec 28, 2016 3:42 pm
Wed Dec 28, 2016 3:44 pm
Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:20 pm
Craig wrote:Here's the info from the factory:Dave McLaren wrote:Hi Craig,
I found G051744 in the computer system. It shows as ASAT Sunburst Rosewood, shipped on 12/4/96 to Cascio Music in San Francisco.
Thanks a lot, Craig!
Dave
So, it came out of the factory as an ASAT with 2 MFD Jumbo single coil pickups.
Hope this helps.
WitSok wrote:Welcome David, even though the guitar has been modified, I'd say it is still a "workhorse." I agree with others that this started as either an ASAT Special or an ASAT III. I doubt it was an ASAT Classic, it is not a simple change going from box bridge of a classic to the Saddle Lock that the special and III have. The guitar would have been built in Fullerton, CA. There were Japanese Tribute models in the 90's, there isn't a lot information on them. All the pictures I've seen of Japanese Tributes had Gotoh hardware and the headstock Decals were different.
If you like the tone there is no reason to change anyrhing. But if you want, the MFD pickups are avialble on the G&L online store.
Once again, welcome to the cult... I mean club!
Cheers, Dan
Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:01 am
Fri Dec 30, 2016 10:26 am