Fri May 25, 2012 4:50 am
Fri May 25, 2012 5:10 am
Ches wrote:
What other hobbies do you have besides guitars and music?
Ches wrote:G&L TOPIC:
Are you a collector, professional musician, semi-pro, or home hobbyist?
Ches wrote:NON-G&L TOPIC:
So, what’s your ride of choice? Got a dream car in your sights? Were you into muscle cars as a kid? Do you long for a purple ’71 Challenger?
Fri May 25, 2012 5:15 am
Fri May 25, 2012 6:59 am
Fri May 25, 2012 7:04 am
louis cyfer wrote:i have a few hobbies. cat and dog rescue, body building, photography, ping pong, water polo, dog training, motorcycle riding, martial arts (muay thai), weapons (swords and bows mainly, but also guns and doing some snake whip lately), period costume dressing, married women, just to name a few.
as far as music, i am just a player. not a collector and not a professional.
as far as cars, i do not care what it is. i will not spend more than a grand on a car. when it breaks down i buy another one. that is it. i usually stay ahead, i buy one if i find a good deal and park it until i need it. i have a 93 corolla with 250k miles and still runs great. also have an accord and a jag xj8, but that one needs a timing chain and i am not sure if i want to do that or just get rid of it as is. i love motorcycles though, it is the way to go to get performance on the cheap. you can get 2.5 sec 0-60, 9 second quarter mile, 200+ top speed for 5-6k.
Fri May 25, 2012 7:14 am
Fri May 25, 2012 7:22 am
Not much time for anything thase days but I manage to stay sane with the music and my other interset in Video production.Ches wrote:What other hobbies do you have besides guitars and music?
A press clipping from one of many side projects way back when LOL ....Ches wrote:Got any old pictures of you gigging or playing? Post ‘em up so we can get a look at your mug when you were a kid
Work provides a Toyota Aurion which is a nice, solid vehicle. "Our" car is a HSV Grange which I love more than anything I've had to date. And I still have an old Nissan Pintara that we bought new about 25 years ago - its currently being driven by my youngest son.Ches wrote:So, what’s your ride of choice?
Fri May 25, 2012 8:04 am
Jaystrings wrote:Unapologetically, I'm a home hobbyist with a 1995 Maxima, a 1997 Chevy longbed Cheyenne truck, & a 1999 Acura. Nothing from this millineum except 2 kiyaks. Now, when it comes to the geetar business, I'm a home hobbyist with an oversized collection that needs a few strings changes - some never get the fondling they truly deserve. For the last 2 years I've been moving some out & replacing with more expensive ones that should appreciate. My most recent purty thang was a 1962 Gibson ES-125TDE that left with me at the last Michigan jam.
I'm gonna make your day, Ches. Although this particular guitar didn't exactly appeal to me, I did keep an image of it & its proud owner, the unique Mr. Cajun Boy:
Great job this week. Enjoy that golf.
Jay
Fri May 25, 2012 8:08 am
Aussie wrote:Hey Ches.
Good to see you and a few of the old-boarders back this week! Haven't had much time to participate this year but its a quiet Friday night here so I'm catching up on some G&LDP postings. Some interesting reading in this weeks LRs.Not much time for anything thase days but I manage to stay sane with the music and my other interset in Video production.Ches wrote:What other hobbies do you have besides guitars and music?A press clipping from one of many side projects way back when LOL ....Ches wrote:Got any old pictures of you gigging or playing? Post ‘em up so we can get a look at your mug when you were a kidWork provides a Toyota Aurion which is a nice, solid vehicle. "Our" car is a HSV Grange which I love more than anything I've had to date. And I still have an old Nissan Pintara that we bought new about 25 years ago - its currently being driven by my youngest son.Ches wrote:So, what’s your ride of choice?
I've enjoyed reading this weeks discussions and hope you'll be sticking around. :Looking forward to hearing from Jay next week also.
cheers, RObbie
Fri May 25, 2012 8:43 am
Fri May 25, 2012 9:15 am
What other hobbies do you have besides guitars and music?
Are you a collector, professional musician, semi-pro, or home hobbyist?
Got any old pictures of you gigging or playing? Post ‘em up so we can get a look at your mug when you were a kid!
Fri May 25, 2012 10:26 am
Fri May 25, 2012 12:04 pm
Fri May 25, 2012 3:47 pm
Ches wrote:My other hobbies are riding ATV's and sprint car racing. I've been a crew member with a team for 20 years. That team is currently sidelined due to engine issues. I was preparing to start helping another team. Unfortunately the guy I was going to help was killed two weeks ago at Valley Speedway.
What a shame! That's got to be a pretty rare occurrence, isn't it?
Ches wrote:
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Fri May 25, 2012 4:05 pm
sickbutnottired wrote:It's easy for me to pickup hobbies. I consciously killed a few about 4 years back, and golf didn't make the cut for me.
I love all things mechanical. I shoot and hunt, but not avidly. I fish, poorly. I drive old crappy vehicles so I do a lot of vehicle maintenance. Together my wife and I have taken up camping, MT is camping paradise 4 1/2 months a year. I am just taking up open canoeing to go with the camping. Then I play music.
I consider myself semi-pro, but have not been gigging much. Like Ches said, I am a little uncomfortable with 'pro' part of that. But I always try to provide as high quality show as I can. We rehearse, and try and entertain people. We are on-time, and sober, and do what we say. So I am proud of that kinda being 'pro'.
One thing I love about guitar as a hobby, is that I feel that I can play at a high-level(ish) for a long time. I am 35, and definitely feel that I can make better music in the next 20 years than I have in the past 20 years.
Cars.....I got rear-ended. Killing my daily driver, a Hyundai Elantra. So now I am driving my toy hauler and work truck, a 2002 3/4 ton crew cab, long box Chevrolet. I am shopping for a new daily (and saving money). Kinda leaning toward breaking down and getting a new rig-a Toyota Tacoma appeals to me. We will see.
I am speechless about a sponge bob guitar.
Fri May 25, 2012 4:13 pm
bassman wrote:I try to make time for my bicycle and I sort of collect old tube radios, although they are getting hard to find for good prices. I am pretty busy just dealing with house maintenance issues to have time for my hobbies. I just redid 2 bathrooms and finished a kitchen renovation. Whew!
bassman wrote:I am not a real collector although I have a good arsenal of guitars and basses. I really am after the sounds they create more than the guitars or basses themselves. I have fun finding the cheapest bass that has the best tone when I go to Guitar Center or my favorite used music store- Atomic Music. I guess I am a semi-pro, since I gig regularly with two bands and a church folk group.
bassman wrote:I actually have one from 1975 but I have to scan it or just take a picture of it sometime.
It is my band playing at a local Chevrolet dealer (Loving Chevrolet)on the day they introduced the Chevette!
Unfortunately, the dealership no longer exists but its a great picture of me playing my 1966 Precision Bass.
More recent pictures are available courtesy of Zapcosongs( Ed Zolt) who has graciously come out to hear my band RAGs and he has taken a few shots that are among the best of the band.
bassman wrote:I drive a 1997 Ford Ranger with only 90000 miles on it. I have been using it sparingly for over 11 years but its now my daily driver since I lost another Toyota Camry. My daughter was rear-ended into a school bus. Oww! That totaled that car so my 4 cylinder days are on hold until my daughter buys a new car.
I hope all of you have a great weekend and good job on the Lunch reports Ches!
Fri May 25, 2012 4:18 pm
glvourot wrote:Hi Ches, great Lunch reports this week.
Besides music , Golf has reappeared as a hobby of mine. I played yesterday for the first time in a long while. I had a few good holes but it was one of the worst rounds I have played in years. I had fun though and I look foward to getting back to where I was playing wise.
I do play bass in a band which is named " The Sun's Horse " . Our guitarist's first name is Sun, but that was a coincidence ( go figure ). And since I play bass in this band I am always torn when I get some time to practice, I usually play my guitars first then pick up the bass. I have an S-500 which has three tremolo springs thanks to you, an SC-2 and a Gretsch Corvette. Two basses and a nice Gibson acoustic round out my guitar collection. The only additions I see in the future is maybe a new bass and an electric with humbuckers. Oh yeah, and maybe a decent bass amp.... and so it goes.
I don't have any pictures of me playing that I know of.
Right now I drive a 2009 Rabbit. I really really like hot hatchbacks so I will looking hard at GTI's next summer. I could never drive a truck unless I needed it for a specific purpose. Gas is up to about 550 a gallon up in these parts ( 6 bucks for premium ). So that is a consideration when thinking about vehicles.
Have fun on the course !
Fri May 25, 2012 4:33 pm
oneeyedog wrote:Hey Ches, great reports... I'm new to these but this and last weeks were great... most enjoyable
oneeyedog wrote: used to do Tai Chi , which I WILL get back to! I have to dogs which make me go for a walk each day which I love to do
my wife does cat rescue so i'm kinda involved too........... and we now have 4 chickens in the garden so free range eggs!
oneeyedog wrote:def not a collector..... although I'd wouldn't say no! I'd love another couple of G&L's... US models, Legacy and Classic would no nicely....
I play in a band, we are just getting going again after personnel changes (!) , i'l post some stuff once its done. Wouldn't dare call myself pro!! Guitar owner , maybe
oneeyedog wrote:didnt start until 6 years ago so no young uns!! this from 2006
oneeyedog wrote: I had a company car since 1985!! until January this year when I was made redundant. always fancied a BMW so thats what I have...
Fri May 25, 2012 4:37 pm
Sprinter 92 wrote: I wish it was rare occurrence. It's not unusual lose a few drivers every year but it's slowly getting better. The HANS head restraint system and containment seats are two new safety devices that have made racing safer. The guy that died two weeks ago didn't use a head restraint system and had the same injury as Dale Earnhardt.
Fri May 25, 2012 4:59 pm
Fri May 25, 2012 5:33 pm
blargfromouterspace wrote:I wish I had the money for other hobbies. I'd love to hunt - deer and ducks. Me and my girlfriend are planning on moving to the country some day in the next few years, it'll have to wait until then.
I guess I'm semi pro too. I get paid for playing but don't (couldnt?) make a living out of it. I love playing in bands, its great fun. A friend recently took a bunch of photos of us at a gig he was also playing at, and managed to make us all look very nice - almost like professionals! He's a pro photographer, and this is buy far the best photo of myself I've ever seen
I drive an older Toyota Corolla. It's 1.8L automatic - it's totally gutless but does the job of getting me from place to place. Once I'm through with uni I'll get myself a proper car. Dream car? Easy. HT Monaro
Thanks for a great week Ches, hope to see you around a bit more
Fri May 25, 2012 5:56 pm
Fri May 25, 2012 6:44 pm
louis cyfer wrote:i highly disagree with people hunting with guns, but i am all for people hunting with a good bowie knife. make it a fair fight. i think a lot of the brave hunters roaming the forest with high powered rifles would choose to bravely sit on the couch instead of hunting if that was the way they had to. i am kind of ok with bow hunting, but not with a compound bow.
Fri May 25, 2012 7:32 pm
Ches wrote:So, what’s your ride of choice? Got a dream car in your sights? Were you into muscle cars as a kid? Do you long for a purple ’71 Challenger?
Ches wrote:What other hobbies do you have besides guitars and music?
Ches wrote:Are you a collector, professional musician, semi-pro, or home hobbyist?
Fri May 25, 2012 7:36 pm
Fri May 25, 2012 7:45 pm
Fri May 25, 2012 8:23 pm
Ches wrote:louis cyfer wrote:i highly disagree with people hunting with guns, but i am all for people hunting with a good bowie knife. make it a fair fight. i think a lot of the brave hunters roaming the forest with high powered rifles would choose to bravely sit on the couch instead of hunting if that was the way they had to. i am kind of ok with bow hunting, but not with a compound bow.
I think it's safe to say there are a lot of hunters who are glad you're not in charge of the DNR.
Sat May 26, 2012 3:16 am
KenC wrote:Ches wrote:So, what’s your ride of choice? Got a dream car in your sights? Were you into muscle cars as a kid? Do you long for a purple ’71 Challenger?
I'm driving a 2011 VW Jetta Sportwagen diesel. It's surprisingly comfortable, handles nicely, and gets well over 40 mpg even in DC traffic. I hope to get at least 200K miles out of it, like my previous Jetta. The last car I owned before the diesel was a '99 Subaru Forrester. I loved that car right up to 100K miles, when everything started falling apart. I had high hopes it was going to reach 200K, but then everything started going at once on the drivetrain (coincidentally right after the drivetrain warranty expired).
The first car I ever bought was a purple '72 Matador. It was really sweet when it wasn't moving. In motion, every part of that car rattled. I can't complain though. I paid $200 for it (this was in '84), drove the **** out of it, and got $500 as a trade-in three years later. The only time it ever left me stranded was in front of an ex-girlfriend's apartment, on the day I broke up with her. It was a bit awkward standing out there waiting for a tow truck. When the tow truck finally got there the driver (who was a family friend) popped the hood and smacked something three or four times with a rubber mallet. The Matador started right up and I had no more problems for the next year that I owned it.Ches wrote:What other hobbies do you have besides guitars and music?
Not a whole lot right now, especially with my job's demands. I did just get a touring kayak last weekend, and have had one very enjoyable paddle on one of the creeks that surround my neighborhood. The kayak is large enough (14.5') to handle bigger water, so my goal for the summer is to learn to handle the Severn River and maybe venture into the Chesapeake Bay. My oldest son is also learning to paddle, so I'm really looking forward to sharing this hobby with him.Ches wrote:Are you a collector, professional musician, semi-pro, or home hobbyist?
I'd call myself a hobbyist on electric bass and guitar, as all of my post-college gigging experience has been on the string bass. I definitely wouldn't consider myself semi-pro on the string bass though, as I can't come close to all of the conservatory-trained bassists out there. I would call myself an emerging collector at this point. Two years ago I had one G&L, but now the total is well over a dozen and destined to increase. I admire recent G&Ls, but it's the Leo-era stuff that gives me GAS. Several of my instruments are rarebirds, and a lot of the others are first-year production for their models. I guess that's kind of collector-y.
Ken
Sat May 26, 2012 3:22 am
zapcosongs wrote:DNR. Do not resuscitate? If the bear wins, so be it. I'm with Louis here. Target shooting is great. But if you're after other life forms, make it fair - unless be hungry and use everything you kill.
Another great day, Ches. Hope the wonderful response(s) you've gotten causes you to stick around and be regular. And I can vouch for a heaping teaspoon of Metamucil when it comes to regularity. Ha!
Old photos: I only have two and I've posted both in the last year or so, but you asked and they are all they have. Forgive me if you're reading this and are tired of them.
1977, High School Stage Band. I was seventeen. I'm the moron with the refinished '66 Jag that was stolen months after this was taken:
This is about three years later, doing original songs with my brother at a Coffeehouse at our college:
I'm the moron with the facial fuzz.
Regarding cars, I drive a "Sport" trimmed Corolla manufactured three or four years ago. My wife drives a Lexus RX 330 from 2004 that she bought used. I used to have a thing for a Mach 1 Mustang, 1972. Then I fell in love with a college buddy's Shelby Cobra. But I think that if I ever strike it modestly rich, I want an Audi. So sue me. Ha! - ed PS: '69 Chargers sometimes make me turbid.
Sat May 26, 2012 3:24 am
zapcosongs wrote:Oh, hobbies.....
I like to fish . . . . - ed
Sat May 26, 2012 3:38 am
louis cyfer wrote:Ches wrote:louis cyfer wrote:i highly disagree with people hunting with guns, but i am all for people hunting with a good bowie knife. make it a fair fight. i think a lot of the brave hunters roaming the forest with high powered rifles would choose to bravely sit on the couch instead of hunting if that was the way they had to. i am kind of ok with bow hunting, but not with a compound bow.
I think it's safe to say there are a lot of hunters who are glad you're not in charge of the DNR.
i am sure they are. to me hunting is a sport, and that denotes some fair fight. killing animals with guns is just that. not hunting. it's just slaughter.
Sat May 26, 2012 6:41 am
Ches wrote:zapcosongs wrote:Oh, hobbies.....
I like to fish . . . . - ed
I hope you aren't using bait, hooks, poles. That's not much of a fair fight.
Sat May 26, 2012 8:13 am
Sat May 26, 2012 9:08 am
i didn't say anything like that. i said a bowie knife. that is a very quick and kind kill. by a skilled person that is. and an unskilled person wouldn't have a hope of getting close to an animal to be able to hurt them. that is my point, it should require skill, bravery, and a fair chance, and like other predators, getting in close contact with the prey. i also didn't suggest trapping, or a group of people surrounding anything. that is misrepresenting what i am talking about, or just simply misunderstanding it. meow made my point perfectly. it's hard with a bow, give me a gun. if it required actual skill, and close contact with wild animals, the number of brave hunters roaming the forest in their camo gear would plummet greatly, and the number of animals getting injured would be very small.Ches wrote:louis cyfer wrote:Ches wrote:louis cyfer wrote:i highly disagree with people hunting with guns, but i am all for people hunting with a good bowie knife. make it a fair fight. i think a lot of the brave hunters roaming the forest with high powered rifles would choose to bravely sit on the couch instead of hunting if that was the way they had to. i am kind of ok with bow hunting, but not with a compound bow.
I think it's safe to say there are a lot of hunters who are glad you're not in charge of the DNR.
i am sure they are. to me hunting is a sport, and that denotes some fair fight. killing animals with guns is just that. not hunting. it's just slaughter.
I have too much respect for the animal to slowly kill it by hitting it with a rock and stabbing it to death repeatedly with a sharp stick. That's torture, and that method of "hunting" would leave countless injured animals to escape only to die a slow death. It would also be deemed inhumane by just about everyone on both sides of the hunting argument. Put a video on the 6:00 news with a trapped deer surrounded by "modern cave men", stoning, beating, and stabbing the deer repeatedly as it's legs break, eyes gets gouged out, with blood spurting out of it's mouth and wounds, and tell me the phones wouldn't ring off the hook. Even the anti-hunters would agree guns are more humane.
Sat May 26, 2012 11:26 am
Ches wrote:....with a trapped deer surrounded by "modern cave men", stoning, beating, and stabbing the deer repeatedly as it's legs break, eyes gets gouged out, with blood spurting out of it's mouth and wounds, and tell me the phones wouldn't ring off the hook.
Sat May 26, 2012 11:52 am
Sat May 26, 2012 1:58 pm
louis cyfer wrote:i highly disagree with people hunting with guns, but i am all for people hunting with a good bowie knife. make it a fair fight. i think a lot of the brave hunters roaming the forest with high powered rifles would choose to bravely sit on the couch instead of hunting if that was the way they had to. i am kind of ok with bow hunting, but not with a compound bow.
Sat May 26, 2012 2:40 pm
Sprinter 92 wrote:louis cyfer wrote:i highly disagree with people hunting with guns, but i am all for people hunting with a good bowie knife. make it a fair fight. i think a lot of the brave hunters roaming the forest with high powered rifles would choose to bravely sit on the couch instead of hunting if that was the way they had to. i am kind of ok with bow hunting, but not with a compound bow.
Hunting is a necessity here in the Midwest. The deer and turkey populations are too high. If you drive a car in this area long enough you will eventually hit a deer. The roads in this area are littered with dead deer. I know very few people who haven't hit one. I believe we need to shoot and kill more of the damn things.
Sprinter 92
Sat May 26, 2012 3:01 pm
Ches wrote:I assume all you righteous people who condemn hunting are PURE vegetarians - as in grow your own food and don't harm any burrowing animals with mechanized farm implements. If you eat store bought meat, your argument has absolutely no merit. The animals you eat are treated worse than any game animal taken by a hunter. If you buy store bought vegetables, your diet includes killing burrowing animals.
Sat May 26, 2012 3:31 pm
Ches wrote:I assume all you righteous people who condemn hunting are PURE vegetarians
Sat May 26, 2012 5:19 pm
Ches wrote:If you buy store bought vegetables, your diet includes killing burrowing animals.
Sat May 26, 2012 5:36 pm
louis cyfer wrote:Ches wrote:I assume all you righteous people who condemn hunting are PURE vegetarians - as in grow your own food and don't harm any burrowing animals with mechanized farm implements. If you eat store bought meat, your argument has absolutely no merit. The animals you eat are treated worse than any game animal taken by a hunter. If you buy store bought vegetables, your diet includes killing burrowing animals.
killing animals for food is one thing. predators in nature have a pretty low success rate. 10% or so on getting their prey.
Sat May 26, 2012 5:53 pm
Sat May 26, 2012 7:08 pm
Ches wrote:louis cyfer wrote:Ches wrote:I assume all you righteous people who condemn hunting are PURE vegetarians - as in grow your own food and don't harm any burrowing animals with mechanized farm implements. If you eat store bought meat, your argument has absolutely no merit. The animals you eat are treated worse than any game animal taken by a hunter. If you buy store bought vegetables, your diet includes killing burrowing animals.
killing animals for food is one thing. predators in nature have a pretty low success rate. 10% or so on getting their prey.
Hunters kill for food in most cases. We're not just trophy hunters throwing a head on the wall. I stopped hunting because my sons moved out of the house. We could easily eat a deer in a matter of months, but since they moved out it takes me almost a year. Not worth the effort, and not worth taking that animals life.
Check the success rates of hunters in most States. Humans with weapons aren't much better than any other predator. One report puts natural predators at 10% to 20%. Human predators have a success rate in some States up to 40% - and that includes farmers killing dozens of deer on their farms. The real success rate in the wild is less.
Take one of those high powered rifles out in the woods and see if you can get close enough to shoot and adult deer. Take a shotgun and see if you can snap that gun up to your shoulder in a matter of seconds to shoot a grouse before it's long gone. My guess is you can't unless you've practiced. Real hunting is not like shooting penned animals. I was a damn good hunter, and I came home empty plenty of times because I didn't take risky shots and I don't take immature adults. I ate what I killed, and I made sure my sons grew up with the same mindset.
A true hunter doesn't kill what he doesn't plan to eat. A true hunter won't take a shot unless he's completely confident he can take the animal down with one shot. It's a poor excuse for a man who wounds wild game and lets it lie under some bush to die.
Sun May 27, 2012 3:20 am
zapcosongs wrote:Still, as Popeye often said, "I yam what I yam" and I just cannot shoulder a rifle and launch a lethal projectile at an animal. -ed
Sun May 27, 2012 3:43 am
louis cyfer wrote:Ches wrote:louis cyfer wrote:Ches wrote:I assume all you righteous people who condemn hunting are PURE vegetarians - as in grow your own food and don't harm any burrowing animals with mechanized farm implements. If you eat store bought meat, your argument has absolutely no merit. The animals you eat are treated worse than any game animal taken by a hunter. If you buy store bought vegetables, your diet includes killing burrowing animals.
killing animals for food is one thing. predators in nature have a pretty low success rate. 10% or so on getting their prey.
Hunters kill for food in most cases. We're not just trophy hunters throwing a head on the wall. I stopped hunting because my sons moved out of the house. We could easily eat a deer in a matter of months, but since they moved out it takes me almost a year. Not worth the effort, and not worth taking that animals life.
Check the success rates of hunters in most States. Humans with weapons aren't much better than any other predator. One report puts natural predators at 10% to 20%. Human predators have a success rate in some States up to 40% - and that includes farmers killing dozens of deer on their farms. The real success rate in the wild is less.
Take one of those high powered rifles out in the woods and see if you can get close enough to shoot and adult deer. Take a shotgun and see if you can snap that gun up to your shoulder in a matter of seconds to shoot a grouse before it's long gone. My guess is you can't unless you've practiced. Real hunting is not like shooting penned animals. I was a damn good hunter, and I came home empty plenty of times because I didn't take risky shots and I don't take immature adults. I ate what I killed, and I made sure my sons grew up with the same mindset.
A true hunter doesn't kill what he doesn't plan to eat. A true hunter won't take a shot unless he's completely confident he can take the animal down with one shot. It's a poor excuse for a man who wounds wild game and lets it lie under some bush to die.
i agree with all that ches, that is feeding your family. but that's not a sport, as blarg so eloquently pointed it out, it is like going shopping. so obviously you don't belong to the people i am talking about, namely calling it a sport and killing animals for enjoyment. unfortunately there are a lot like that, the hunting scene, and what i am saying, if you want to call it a sport, make the odds even. if the stake for one party is losing a life, so it should be for the other. that goes back to the old days of sport, when dying was a reasonable expectation for the participants, most people don't do that today, but if someone does, so be it. grab a knife go take down a grizzly or a wolf or a mountain lion, and if you live, get to be proud of the trophy. please understand this is not directed towards you, just in general, as i don't have a problem with what you do, you do exactly what a predator does, hunt to kill your food, the only difference being (i think) is that most predators don't choose to take down the biggest adult, but the weak, the small, the young, the slow, as the meat still tastes the same.
my problem with trophy hunting is that they kill exactly the specimen that managed to survive all the predators, and instead of improving the species hunted by killing the weak ones, do the opposite and take down the most successful ones.
Sun May 27, 2012 5:32 am
Sun May 27, 2012 6:58 am
Sun May 27, 2012 11:36 am
oneeyedog wrote:Hey Louis, do you work within an orginisation or on your on with the rescue service? My wife is with Cats Protection as a volunteer
http://www.facebook.com/groups/124740124205585/
john
Sun May 27, 2012 1:31 pm
louis cyfer wrote:ches, i think we agree more than what would appear on the surface. i love animals, and so do you. way may express it differently, but the motivation is still the same. managing wildlife population is a very important thing, and killing is required as part of it. it is very obvious it is not a sport to you. i take animal welfare very seriously, from treatment of food stock raised to slaughter, to pet and pet breeding, rescue, to wild animal treatment, and endangered species preservation. and i would be proud to call you my friend.
i have killed animals before, one example is when i pulled over to check on a squirrel that was hit by a car, and broke its neck to end the suffering. to an outside observer it could have seemed cruel.
i don't like killing unnecessarily or cruelly. even when people have to control pests, a still think it should be done as humanely as possible, and it should not be a cause for joy.
i do a lot of cat and dog rescue, from fostering and placing abandoned dogs, to raising kittens that have lost their mothers, and spay and neuter feral cats, and any dog i find running loose. we have way too many cats and dogs getting killed every year in shelters, no need to produce any more unwanted ones. i am very involved in fighting breed specific legislation against dogs (the latest one is fighting the army in not allowing servicemen bring back their pets from overseas because of discriminating against the appearance of some of the dogs), and fighting to ban pert stores from selling puppies and kittens, as that fuels the puppy mill trade and allows impulsive buying of pets that get discarded later. no reputable breeder will sell to a pet store, and people who want to buy dogs should buy them from breeders, as they have the welfare of their animals as their focus. any good dog breeder will tell you, you do not make a living breeding dogs, you may make some money to offset some costs, but won't be getting rich for sure.
i agree with blarg "Foie gras tastes fantastic", one of my favorite foods growing up (hungary is one of the main producer of it), but i don't eat it anymore, and i do think it should be stopped as it is a very cruel thing done to the geese to produce it.
a side note, one of my fosters has found a forever home, he's been there for 2 weeks now, i am really happy for him.