Lunch Report Monday 2011.06.20
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Lunch Report Monday 2011.06.20
Who is this Aussie Guy?
Hi all. I generally go by the name Robbie, am rapidly approaching 55yo and am marrried with three kids. I look after corporate and financial services for the Western Australian State Government agency that provides hospital, community and primary health services to all parts of the State outside of the Perth metropolitan area. I joined the G&LDP around four years ago but I am by nature more of a listener than talker and therefore spend far more time reading posts than writing them. I've been particulary inactive for the past 18 months as 2010 was a horrific year when through separate circumstances I almost lost my father, my wife and my daughter. Fortunately, they are all reovering well - cross fingers.
I've played guitar since I was a child having been taught by my father. I played in bands continuously from my mid teens right through to the begining of 2010 when circumstances lead me to stand down from the band I'd been with for the past 20 years. Since my mid teens I've been semi pro in that I've always been in working bands but I've never made my living solely from music - well not since I finished University anyway. Over the years I've probably covered most genres form rock to metal to country to punk to indie to ....
Today's Geography Lesson
My hometown of Perth is the capital city of Western Australia, a State which comprises one third of the Australian continent. WA has a population of 2.3 million people - 1.7 million of whom live in Perth. Outside of Perth there are few settlements with more than 20,000 people and non larger than around 30,000. To reach one you have to drive two hours South to Bunbury, Four hours North to Geraldton or seven hours East to Kalgoorlie. To give you a sense of scale WA is more than three and a half times the size of Texas but has only one tenth of Texas' population. Its around eleven times the size of the United Kingdom but with a population only four percent that of the UK In line with the precedents set by my compatriots ... here's a map, although it doesn't look like any type of biscuit or anatomical feature that I know of ....
Lunch
Warning - my lunches are usually pretty uninteresting, unimaginative fare. Too often I've found myself caught up and not able to get out of the building to buy lunch so I generally bring lunch from home. Today was a chicken and salad roll, Mars bar and an apple, all washed down with a hot lemon tea.
Do you guys manage to get away from your workplace for lunch or (sigh), like me, do you usually end up cramming in a few bites at your desk?
G&L Topic
Leo Fender was a renounded tinkerer and innovator - always looking for improvements and better ways to do things. I think its probaby a safe bet that if G&L had continued under Leo's guiding hand production techniques and product design would have continued to evolve from those of the '80s and early 90's. Unfortunately non of use really know where he would have taken things. In that regard I really feel for BBE. To maintain the spirit of Leo Fender they need to be innovative and look for opportunities to change and improve, but if they do it in a way that WE don't think Leo would have done, they may be deminished in our eyes.
Given the philosophy behind the Telecaster, I think production changes like CNC and Plek would have been entertained by Leo and George. They may well have been sold on the merits of the Tribute line. What about innovations like the DFS Vibrato ... or Leo's last project (the baritone) not yet making it into production? What are the innovations that might have been?
How much different do you think G&L might be if Leo, George and Dale were still at the helm? ... and are BBE between a rock and a hard place in trying to balance preservation and innovation - is it inevitable yjay they will be damned if they do and damned if they don't?
General Topic
OK. Monday being introduction day this is turning into a rather long post so how about a quick non G&l question.
What song or piece of music would be the theme to the story of your life and why?
The dreamer in me wishes it were Spectrum's "I'll Be Gone". My ego might hope for Skyhooks "You Just Like me "cause I'm Good in Bed" (sentiment only as I hate the song!). My wife would probably think I should use Neil Innes' "How Sweet to be an Idiot". But for the most part the title if not all of the actual lyrics of Joe Walsh's "Life's Been Good" probably best sums up how I'd reflect on things so far.
What! No Porn?
Some of you will have heard me explain why I don't post pictures or even speak much of the gear I own. Briefly, a few years back my home was broken into and trashed as a direct consequence of my profile on our band website including details of my musical and video production equipment. I made a promise to my wife that I wouldn't publish that kind of information again, and remembering how distressed she was about what she came home to that day, I have and will continue to keep that promise.
Not being able to show or talk specifically about my gear is kinda limiting in stiuations like this. So ... since I can't show you my gear .... I'm thinking that over the coming week I'll let you hear some of what I've done with it. Today you can hear the most recent thing I've recorded. Over the rest of the week I'll post some of my early material from the '70's from that long lost cassette that turned up a couple of years ago. I guess its the musical equivalent of showing my baby photos.
The newet project .... I'm working on a two minute promo clip for my agency to use at various expos etc. I've recorded the audio track with the assistance of my old band mates and am about half way through putting the video together. If you have nothing better to do with your day, have a listen to the full audio clip, have a look at how it works with the first half of the video and post your critique
Here's the audio - wachs.mp3
[youtube]9SZJwK28pZs[/youtube]
... and now its nearly time for bed here so chat amongst yourselves and I'll see you all tomorrow.
Cheers, Robbie
Hi all. I generally go by the name Robbie, am rapidly approaching 55yo and am marrried with three kids. I look after corporate and financial services for the Western Australian State Government agency that provides hospital, community and primary health services to all parts of the State outside of the Perth metropolitan area. I joined the G&LDP around four years ago but I am by nature more of a listener than talker and therefore spend far more time reading posts than writing them. I've been particulary inactive for the past 18 months as 2010 was a horrific year when through separate circumstances I almost lost my father, my wife and my daughter. Fortunately, they are all reovering well - cross fingers.
I've played guitar since I was a child having been taught by my father. I played in bands continuously from my mid teens right through to the begining of 2010 when circumstances lead me to stand down from the band I'd been with for the past 20 years. Since my mid teens I've been semi pro in that I've always been in working bands but I've never made my living solely from music - well not since I finished University anyway. Over the years I've probably covered most genres form rock to metal to country to punk to indie to ....
Today's Geography Lesson
My hometown of Perth is the capital city of Western Australia, a State which comprises one third of the Australian continent. WA has a population of 2.3 million people - 1.7 million of whom live in Perth. Outside of Perth there are few settlements with more than 20,000 people and non larger than around 30,000. To reach one you have to drive two hours South to Bunbury, Four hours North to Geraldton or seven hours East to Kalgoorlie. To give you a sense of scale WA is more than three and a half times the size of Texas but has only one tenth of Texas' population. Its around eleven times the size of the United Kingdom but with a population only four percent that of the UK In line with the precedents set by my compatriots ... here's a map, although it doesn't look like any type of biscuit or anatomical feature that I know of ....
Lunch
Warning - my lunches are usually pretty uninteresting, unimaginative fare. Too often I've found myself caught up and not able to get out of the building to buy lunch so I generally bring lunch from home. Today was a chicken and salad roll, Mars bar and an apple, all washed down with a hot lemon tea.
Do you guys manage to get away from your workplace for lunch or (sigh), like me, do you usually end up cramming in a few bites at your desk?
G&L Topic
Leo Fender was a renounded tinkerer and innovator - always looking for improvements and better ways to do things. I think its probaby a safe bet that if G&L had continued under Leo's guiding hand production techniques and product design would have continued to evolve from those of the '80s and early 90's. Unfortunately non of use really know where he would have taken things. In that regard I really feel for BBE. To maintain the spirit of Leo Fender they need to be innovative and look for opportunities to change and improve, but if they do it in a way that WE don't think Leo would have done, they may be deminished in our eyes.
Given the philosophy behind the Telecaster, I think production changes like CNC and Plek would have been entertained by Leo and George. They may well have been sold on the merits of the Tribute line. What about innovations like the DFS Vibrato ... or Leo's last project (the baritone) not yet making it into production? What are the innovations that might have been?
How much different do you think G&L might be if Leo, George and Dale were still at the helm? ... and are BBE between a rock and a hard place in trying to balance preservation and innovation - is it inevitable yjay they will be damned if they do and damned if they don't?
General Topic
OK. Monday being introduction day this is turning into a rather long post so how about a quick non G&l question.
What song or piece of music would be the theme to the story of your life and why?
The dreamer in me wishes it were Spectrum's "I'll Be Gone". My ego might hope for Skyhooks "You Just Like me "cause I'm Good in Bed" (sentiment only as I hate the song!). My wife would probably think I should use Neil Innes' "How Sweet to be an Idiot". But for the most part the title if not all of the actual lyrics of Joe Walsh's "Life's Been Good" probably best sums up how I'd reflect on things so far.
What! No Porn?
Some of you will have heard me explain why I don't post pictures or even speak much of the gear I own. Briefly, a few years back my home was broken into and trashed as a direct consequence of my profile on our band website including details of my musical and video production equipment. I made a promise to my wife that I wouldn't publish that kind of information again, and remembering how distressed she was about what she came home to that day, I have and will continue to keep that promise.
Not being able to show or talk specifically about my gear is kinda limiting in stiuations like this. So ... since I can't show you my gear .... I'm thinking that over the coming week I'll let you hear some of what I've done with it. Today you can hear the most recent thing I've recorded. Over the rest of the week I'll post some of my early material from the '70's from that long lost cassette that turned up a couple of years ago. I guess its the musical equivalent of showing my baby photos.
The newet project .... I'm working on a two minute promo clip for my agency to use at various expos etc. I've recorded the audio track with the assistance of my old band mates and am about half way through putting the video together. If you have nothing better to do with your day, have a listen to the full audio clip, have a look at how it works with the first half of the video and post your critique
Here's the audio - wachs.mp3
[youtube]9SZJwK28pZs[/youtube]
... and now its nearly time for bed here so chat amongst yourselves and I'll see you all tomorrow.
Cheers, Robbie
Last edited by Aussie on Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:05 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Lunch Report Monday 2011.06.20
Great stuff. I'd like to see Leo's "Innovator" come to life. Also, I have had similar problems showing my "stuff" online. BTW, my LM2 is locked away...
Cheers,
Will
Cheers,
Will
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I would love a G&L Baritone. I don't know if BBE is between a rock and a hard place, but in a world where branding in king and Teles and Strats are iconic instruments, it's hard for G&L to stretch too far away from "copycat" models. People want those guitars and, if they most likely buy them from G&L because of the Leo connection. I don't know that G&L would still be in business were it not for that affiliation: there are just too many companies out there making licensed and similar products.
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I work from home, so my lunches are usually pretty lazy too, currently eating and apple and a pear. ooooooooh.
Innovation is tricky, I don't think Leo would have been comfortable to stay in line of the profiled instruments being mostly a 'strat' and a 'tele' from G&L though, he would have continually tried to push that stigma, however the customer knows what they want (as I wait for my mostly strat shaped 7 stringer).
I don't have anything new I have recorded around, and my latest mix is back in the blender for an entire re-envisioning of the song, so I would rather not throw it out there again. I am currently working with a drummer to get it rolling. I am breaking into the world of reammping and have very high hopes for the projected outcome this time. Some aspects such as the bass mysteriously not having any frequencies about 600 hz really killed the last stint, it however opened new doors. My older stuff suffers in terms of production comparatively too, so I think I shall refrain for now.
As far as a theme song goes, there is one tune out there that always makes me feel really good. Probably the most tastefully composed piece of guitar music out there. "Whispering a Prayer", and for those unfamiliar with it the video is below, there are no studio recordings of this one, it is strictly a live affair.
[youtube]KEiaZaIvBUM[/youtube]
Innovation is tricky, I don't think Leo would have been comfortable to stay in line of the profiled instruments being mostly a 'strat' and a 'tele' from G&L though, he would have continually tried to push that stigma, however the customer knows what they want (as I wait for my mostly strat shaped 7 stringer).
I don't have anything new I have recorded around, and my latest mix is back in the blender for an entire re-envisioning of the song, so I would rather not throw it out there again. I am currently working with a drummer to get it rolling. I am breaking into the world of reammping and have very high hopes for the projected outcome this time. Some aspects such as the bass mysteriously not having any frequencies about 600 hz really killed the last stint, it however opened new doors. My older stuff suffers in terms of production comparatively too, so I think I shall refrain for now.
As far as a theme song goes, there is one tune out there that always makes me feel really good. Probably the most tastefully composed piece of guitar music out there. "Whispering a Prayer", and for those unfamiliar with it the video is below, there are no studio recordings of this one, it is strictly a live affair.
[youtube]KEiaZaIvBUM[/youtube]
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Dramatically different. Age aside of course, Leo would still be creating and innovating new designs. To my knowledge, the only G&L-related patents issued after Leo Fender died were issued to Leo Fender.How much different do you think G&L might be if Leo, George and Dale were still at the helm?
Yes. They've brought in things since Leo passed away, like the plek and the CNC machines, but those were outside pieces from the industry. Neither were from G&L. The engineering spirit went with Leo Fender.... and are BBE between a rock and a hard place in trying to balance preservation and innovation - is it inevitable that they will be damned if they do and damned if they don't?
Leo Fender is a hard act to follow.
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Since Leo's work at Music Man seem to be quite a big departure from Fender my guess would be that there would have been a lot of different things coming out of G&L if Leo had been around all these years.
I never thought of associating a song with my life, and that would be very hard to pick since there have been so many meaningful songs. One song that came to mind immediately though is the Beatles' "In My Life." I reserve the right to change my mind later.
Great piece of music! As soon as that chime hit me I was hooked. I like it!
Kit
I never thought of associating a song with my life, and that would be very hard to pick since there have been so many meaningful songs. One song that came to mind immediately though is the Beatles' "In My Life." I reserve the right to change my mind later.
Great piece of music! As soon as that chime hit me I was hooked. I like it!
Kit
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I work at home now, but when I worked in an office, I would always try get away from my desk and out of the office if possible. I found that a short walk was always helpful to refresh my mind.
Not sure how much more innovation there would be if Leo was still at the helm--maybe even less innovation. Hard to say. But yes, I agree that to a point BBE is caught between a rock and a hard place when it comes to change.
I don't have any idea what my song would be. I'll have to think on that, and if I come up with something, I'll let you know.
Bill
Not sure how much more innovation there would be if Leo was still at the helm--maybe even less innovation. Hard to say. But yes, I agree that to a point BBE is caught between a rock and a hard place when it comes to change.
I don't have any idea what my song would be. I'll have to think on that, and if I come up with something, I'll let you know.
Bill
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Robbie, the land of Oz is huge by our standards and would even shut most of the Texans down.
Good to see you doing LR's and yes, it takes a lot of time but in the end it is fun for everyone. I missed lunch today but will have a great salad later tonight.
G&L has had to find a path between changes/tradition. I think that Leo made some great inventions but in the end I think that he was into electronics. George was probably more of a body designer although Leo really had some winners. He also had some not so winners and I think the Jazzmaster is a perfect example. I think that BBE has done a great job on the product by improving the manufacturing and continuing to use the woods they are using. They are thriving on reputation and if they were to cheapen the product or reduce the quality control, it could be the kiss of death. They probably are not developing a lot of new styles or branching out a lot and I think that is a safe approach in this economy. I just looked at the Fender Pawn Shop series today and they are Japan models, actually quite nice but Fender development is mostly in the lower end products. Bottom line is, do what you do well.
I don't have a song in particular but it would have to be about having a great life and a lot of fun. I am guilty of not listening to the words but the instrumentation. Last weekend when practicing for a gig I was asked to do more background vocals but the reality is that I know the words to very few songs. Maybe I will expand some day!-- Darwin
Good to see you doing LR's and yes, it takes a lot of time but in the end it is fun for everyone. I missed lunch today but will have a great salad later tonight.
G&L has had to find a path between changes/tradition. I think that Leo made some great inventions but in the end I think that he was into electronics. George was probably more of a body designer although Leo really had some winners. He also had some not so winners and I think the Jazzmaster is a perfect example. I think that BBE has done a great job on the product by improving the manufacturing and continuing to use the woods they are using. They are thriving on reputation and if they were to cheapen the product or reduce the quality control, it could be the kiss of death. They probably are not developing a lot of new styles or branching out a lot and I think that is a safe approach in this economy. I just looked at the Fender Pawn Shop series today and they are Japan models, actually quite nice but Fender development is mostly in the lower end products. Bottom line is, do what you do well.
I don't have a song in particular but it would have to be about having a great life and a lot of fun. I am guilty of not listening to the words but the instrumentation. Last weekend when practicing for a gig I was asked to do more background vocals but the reality is that I know the words to very few songs. Maybe I will expand some day!-- Darwin
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I miss the space in W.A. It's the only place in the world free of traffic jams.
My lunch yesterday was a chicken tikka and roti murthabak washed down with a mango lassi. I'm in Singapore with my girlfriend this week and have been indulging in hawker center cuisine. Great meals and the two of us fill up for $10.
My life has been pretty good fun so far. I like where I am too, so I'll say "Wonderful Land" by The Shadows.
My lunch yesterday was a chicken tikka and roti murthabak washed down with a mango lassi. I'm in Singapore with my girlfriend this week and have been indulging in hawker center cuisine. Great meals and the two of us fill up for $10.
My life has been pretty good fun so far. I like where I am too, so I'll say "Wonderful Land" by The Shadows.
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Blarg, it looks to me like you are up to no good!!!!!!- You are starting to act like a musician! I hope that you are drinking and carousing. --Darwin
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Hi Robbie,
Thanks for stepping up this week. You forgot to mention that a disproportionately large amount of Australia's musical talent comes from W.A. Why is that? Something in the water? Maybe the isolation encourages creativity?
Lunch today is a wholegrain ham sandwich, a pear and milky tea. I generally try to go for a walk at lunch time even though the scenery in this part of Melbourne is, ummm, uninspiring. It's actually a large industrial estate. We've got 100+ km/hr winds today so I'll be sitting at my desk watching tree branches fly past the window while I eat lunch.
'The End Of The Line' by the Traveling Wilburys pretty much sums up my world view at the moment. I'm thankful for my health, my family, my G&L's and my employment, testing though it is at times. I'm trying to be happy with the moment, with what I have. GAS is a hard thing to resist though.
Thanks for stepping up this week. You forgot to mention that a disproportionately large amount of Australia's musical talent comes from W.A. Why is that? Something in the water? Maybe the isolation encourages creativity?
Lunch today is a wholegrain ham sandwich, a pear and milky tea. I generally try to go for a walk at lunch time even though the scenery in this part of Melbourne is, ummm, uninspiring. It's actually a large industrial estate. We've got 100+ km/hr winds today so I'll be sitting at my desk watching tree branches fly past the window while I eat lunch.
'The End Of The Line' by the Traveling Wilburys pretty much sums up my world view at the moment. I'm thankful for my health, my family, my G&L's and my employment, testing though it is at times. I'm trying to be happy with the moment, with what I have. GAS is a hard thing to resist though.
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Nice start, Robbie.
Yeah, I think G&L is in a tough place, but I believe they are up to the task of keeping Leo's flame alive while building great guitars that embody his spirit of quality and innovation.
I work from home and I have a confession: My lunches are meals of convenience, frequently followed by a little nap, which is the best part more often than not. Though I appreciate good food, more often than not, I'm just filling a void in my belly with as little effort as possible at lunchtime.
I'd love to get to WA one day. It's getting too crowded for my liking here in suburban Washington DC (though I'm lucky enough to live in a sort of oasis on a park and lake....)
Life song: "Don't Dream It's Over." Also, as a kid, I developed an appreciation for "Peter and the Wolf." Damn Peter always seems to get in trouble, if you know what I mean.... ;+) Sometimes, you just gotta Duck.
Again, what was the question? - ed
Yeah, I think G&L is in a tough place, but I believe they are up to the task of keeping Leo's flame alive while building great guitars that embody his spirit of quality and innovation.
I work from home and I have a confession: My lunches are meals of convenience, frequently followed by a little nap, which is the best part more often than not. Though I appreciate good food, more often than not, I'm just filling a void in my belly with as little effort as possible at lunchtime.
I'd love to get to WA one day. It's getting too crowded for my liking here in suburban Washington DC (though I'm lucky enough to live in a sort of oasis on a park and lake....)
Life song: "Don't Dream It's Over." Also, as a kid, I developed an appreciation for "Peter and the Wolf." Damn Peter always seems to get in trouble, if you know what I mean.... ;+) Sometimes, you just gotta Duck.
Again, what was the question? - ed
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Cool video BTW Robbie. Really high production values, both audio and video. The jingle is super catchy too. Is that a Rick 12-string on the main riff?
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For the uninitiated, Duck gets eaten alive. But that's not always a bad thing, and as long as you're alive, there is hope. And maybe there's hope after that, eh? Regardless, Don't Dream It's Over. - ed
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Thanks to everyone for participating today. Seems like non of us envy BBE their tak of keeping Leo's fire burning.
Some interesting thoughts on theme's for life stories ... i can certainly visualise how sections of Whispering A Prayer would work nicely over opening scenes and as incidental music as a story unfolds.
Will - Hopefully you didn't lose too much of your stuff, at least nothing that insurance can't put right.
Jamie - must have been a while since you left WA. Navigating the freways in the morning and afternoon commute times isn't much fun these days. Fortunately I don't have to use them.
Philby - through the '60s and '70s WA missed out on many overseas acts - due to logistics and costs an Australian tour generally meant Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane. The tyranny of distance also limited how many Australian acts came across. As a result WA had to be much more self reliant for its amusement and entertainmnet, and yeah, I think that has been a positive in many ways. And as your your question on instrumentation .... Hmmm ... would I be in breach of promise if I were to answer that. Perhaps I could respond in the manner of the character Francis Urquart from the political thriller "House of Cards" by saying "You might well think that, but I couldn't possibly comment" LOL
cheers, RObbie
Some interesting thoughts on theme's for life stories ... i can certainly visualise how sections of Whispering A Prayer would work nicely over opening scenes and as incidental music as a story unfolds.
Will - Hopefully you didn't lose too much of your stuff, at least nothing that insurance can't put right.
Jamie - must have been a while since you left WA. Navigating the freways in the morning and afternoon commute times isn't much fun these days. Fortunately I don't have to use them.
Philby - through the '60s and '70s WA missed out on many overseas acts - due to logistics and costs an Australian tour generally meant Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane. The tyranny of distance also limited how many Australian acts came across. As a result WA had to be much more self reliant for its amusement and entertainmnet, and yeah, I think that has been a positive in many ways. And as your your question on instrumentation .... Hmmm ... would I be in breach of promise if I were to answer that. Perhaps I could respond in the manner of the character Francis Urquart from the political thriller "House of Cards" by saying "You might well think that, but I couldn't possibly comment" LOL
cheers, RObbie
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