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cho wrote:Tom,
I've never seen a vintage SC-1 or SC-2 model with anything except a maple fretboard. But, maybe there is one out there.
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Fumble fingers wrote:love the proto !! ...... wish that was in my collection
I here you on the roasted maple .... I hope G&L don't give up on this process , the LE2 RM neck is my best sounding neck pup between my 2013 SC2 and 1986 Broadcaster ( roasted maple , rosewood and maple in that order ) .... not sure whats different but the LE sounds great with that neck , especially if the SC2 and LE 2 share the same pick up , I know the Bcaster is wound different
Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:30 pm
Fumble fingers wrote:I here you on the roasted maple .... I hope G&L don't give up on this process , the LE2 RM neck is my best sounding neck pup between my 2013 SC2 and 1986 Broadcaster ( roasted maple , rosewood and maple in that order ) .... not sure whats different but the LE sounds great with that neck , especially if the SC2 and LE 2 share the same pick up , I know the Bcaster is wound different
Sat Jan 07, 2017 11:35 am
yowhatsshakin wrote:cho wrote:Tom,
I've never seen a vintage SC-1 or SC-2 model with anything except a maple fretboard. But, maybe there is one out there.
The pre-BBE SC-2 (and SC-1) were only available with maple boards until they went out of production at the end of 1984. The SC-3 has been available with maple, ebony (only 1987), and rosewood (1988 and later). This is all according to the price lists. Dale Hyat would never forego a good sale so e.g. the F-100 was available until he retired in November 1991. Same is true for the X-body Interceptor where 2 were built in the summer 1991. So it might not be impossible there is an ebony board pre-BBE SC-2 out there but I'd claim it is unlikely.
- Jos
Sat Jan 07, 2017 11:44 am
FZTNT wrote:yowhatsshakin wrote:cho wrote:Tom,
I've never seen a vintage SC-1 or SC-2 model with anything except a maple fretboard. But, maybe there is one out there.
The pre-BBE SC-2 (and SC-1) were only available with maple boards until they went out of production at the end of 1984. The SC-3 has been available with maple, ebony (only 1987), and rosewood (1988 and later). This is all according to the price lists. Dale Hyat would never forego a good sale so e.g. the F-100 was available until he retired in November 1991. Same is true for the X-body Interceptor where 2 were built in the summer 1991. So it might not be impossible there is an ebony board pre-BBE SC-2 out there but I'd claim it is unlikely.
- Jos
Well that's probably why I couldn't find any with Ebony FBs. Not a huge fan of painted FBs and prefer the feel of the real wood.
What year was this SC-2 built, any idea? It is super sweet looking but IMHO, the Maple wold be too stark of a difference. To each his own though. Thanks for the pics Cho, enjoy.
Tom
Serial Number: CLF60492
Date Completed: July 12 5, 2011
Description: Black over alder, 3-ply black pickguard, rosewood fingerboard, Clear Satin finish.
Purpose: Dave McLaren recalls, "This prototype clearly shows that the Fallout is based on the SC-2: the headstock is straight from an SC-2 including an SC-2 decal.
This guitar was made in the early stage of development, and this point, the only thing we were certain of is we wanted a humbucker in the bridge position, a meaty single
coil in the neck position, and a cool pickguard shape that would complement the body shape borrowed directly from the SC-2. Our early thinking was to use a jumbo MFD
as used in an SC-2 or ASAT Special paired with a G&L humbucker. Though the two pickups paired quite well, we later decided to go with a G&L P-90 we had developed for
the ASAT Junior II paired with a Seymour Duncan TB-4. This is a rockin' little axe and a cool historical nugget."
Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:02 pm
Craig wrote:FZTNT wrote:yowhatsshakin wrote:cho wrote:Tom,
I've never seen a vintage SC-1 or SC-2 model with anything except a maple fretboard. But, maybe there is one out there.
The pre-BBE SC-2 (and SC-1) were only available with maple boards until they went out of production at the end of 1984. The SC-3 has been available with maple, ebony (only 1987), and rosewood (1988 and later). This is all according to the price lists. Dale Hyat would never forego a good sale so e.g. the F-100 was available until he retired in November 1991. Same is true for the X-body Interceptor where 2 were built in the summer 1991. So it might not be impossible there is an ebony board pre-BBE SC-2 out there but I'd claim it is unlikely.
- Jos
Well that's probably why I couldn't find any with Ebony FBs. Not a huge fan of painted FBs and prefer the feel of the real wood.
What year was this SC-2 built, any idea? It is super sweet looking but IMHO, the Maple wold be too stark of a difference. To each his own though. Thanks for the pics Cho, enjoy.
Tom
From the G&L Prototypes page:Serial Number: CLF60492
Date Completed: July 12 5, 2011
Description: Black over alder, 3-ply black pickguard, rosewood fingerboard, Clear Satin finish.
Purpose: Dave McLaren recalls, "This prototype clearly shows that the Fallout is based on the SC-2: the headstock is straight from an SC-2 including an SC-2 decal.
This guitar was made in the early stage of development, and this point, the only thing we were certain of is we wanted a humbucker in the bridge position, a meaty single
coil in the neck position, and a cool pickguard shape that would complement the body shape borrowed directly from the SC-2. Our early thinking was to use a jumbo MFD
as used in an SC-2 or ASAT Special paired with a G&L humbucker. Though the two pickups paired quite well, we later decided to go with a G&L P-90 we had developed for
the ASAT Junior II paired with a Seymour Duncan TB-4. This is a rockin' little axe and a cool historical nugget."
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cho wrote:Tom,
The guitar that Dave McLaren is describing is this same guitar. It is the Fallout prototype.
I hadn't realized that it was designated as having a rosewood fretboard. I assumed it was ebony because it is so black. Also, I think the store that sold it told me it was ebony. However, I went and took a closer look, and I think it very well may be rosewood, although it is the darkest, least grainy rosewood I have ever seen. Here is a closeup:
I compared it to one of my ebony FB guitars, and the grain patterns do seem different. The Fallout has a bunch of short grains in it, whereas the ebony tends to have long, thin stripes for the grain... Perhaps for the Fallout, they just chose the blackest rosewood they had, so it would match the black guitar... thanks for catching that!
FZTNT wrote:Sure is a dark Rosewood if that's what it is...
So essentially they took an SC-2 and put different pickups in it and called it a Fallout, and that's the prototype for it. Pretty cool. I think I have seen this guitar before and that's what lead me in my search for an SC-2 with Ebony board.
Tom
Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:58 pm