Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:39 am
Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:35 am
Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:48 am
Heady Jam Fan wrote:Hey all,
Lastly, I'm wondering if I am overthinking this, and the bridge is not the important part of the equation: maybe I just need a new nut, or to get the nut reslotted/fixed up (maybe the wide gauge strings the previous owner used messed up the slots)?
Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:53 am
geoff douglas wrote:its all about the pivot points,,, the bridge plate could have blunt pivot edges, the posts could have blunt pivot points too. the bridge cant behave wrong if the pivot points are correct, its the only source of issues.. considering all else has been checked worth looking at i would suggest
Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:00 am
Al Evans wrote:Heady Jam Fan wrote:Hey all,
Lastly, I'm wondering if I am overthinking this, and the bridge is not the important part of the equation: maybe I just need a new nut, or to get the nut reslotted/fixed up (maybe the wide gauge strings the previous owner used messed up the slots)?
It seems to me that at this point, you really really need to know what is binding. I would start with the strings off. Pull each string back and forth through its nut slot. Do they all slide easily? If not, there's your problem.
If the strings slide freely, you want to check the tremolo mechanism for free motion. Remove the springs if you need to. Eliminate anything that keeps the trem mechanism from moving freely.
If neither of these checks turn up anything useful, the problem is beyond my understanding...
Incidentally, if you're suspicious of neck angle, the first thing to do would be to take off the neck and see if there is a shim in the neck pocket. All other things bneing equal, a shim toward the headstock should make you lower the bridge saddle height, and a shim toward the bridge should make you raise it.
--Al Evans
Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:23 am
Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:32 am
Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:51 am
geoff douglas wrote:if there is no spring binding and the felt washers arnt chewed up in the pivots, and if the claw tension on the pivots is roughly equal, and the nut is well lubricated and slot size vs string size is correct, even though its a 2017 model,, if it still doesnt hold tune, it can only be the pivots.. just because its a new guitar, 2017, doesnt mean it cant have a bad pivot set.. cant think what else either it could be,,, over stretched strings,, thats a possibility,,,
Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:55 am
Craig wrote:I suggest holding off on disassembly the bridge at this point.
Please post some photos showing the nut and the bridge from the side to insure that the bridge plate is parallel with the body.
Also, make sure that there are the felt washers under the bridge around the pivot bolts.
The current setup post in this sub-forum is factory setup and is intended to be a good starting point. The manuals in the Gallery are
for earlier years,Version 2 is for build years1988-2008.
For posting photos see: Tutorial: Posting photos.
Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:06 am
Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:12 am
Elwood wrote:Also (in case it wasn't mentioned) check the front lip of the bridge plate touching
the pickguard. Even slight contact can keep it from returning smoothly.
good luck
Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:10 pm
Craig wrote:I suggest holding off on disassembly the bridge at this point.
Please post some photos showing the nut and the bridge from the side to insure that the bridge plate is parallel with the body.
Also, make sure that there are the felt washers under the bridge around the pivot bolts.
The current setup post in this sub-forum is factory setup and is intended to be a good starting point. The manuals in the Gallery are
for earlier years,Version 2 is for build years1988-2008.
For posting photos see: Tutorial: Posting photos.
Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:05 pm
Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:18 pm
FZTNT wrote:Those strings look pretty deep in the nut slots. not surety angle is correct. The next step I would take is a brand new nut done by a real luthier, followed by a complete to spec setup. See what happens.
Tom
Sun Apr 15, 2018 4:45 am