Sat Apr 09, 2016 8:02 am
#133 Commemorative needs some polishing up before photos... as it remained in the case since 9-15-1992 (completion date).
Sat Apr 09, 2016 8:17 am
Nice score Craig! So the box exists. How about the guitar?
- Jos
Sat Apr 09, 2016 8:27 am
Here's the original case:
Once it get's polished up, I will post the rest of the contents inside.
Stay tuned.
Sat Apr 09, 2016 8:53 am
Oh my
Cue Carly Simon "Anticipation"
Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:30 am
Congrats Craig ..... I hope all the contents are in there ...... I would a had that baby open so fast you would have had to slow-mo the cam to see my hands moving ...lol..... nice box and case though
Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:28 pm
Craig wrote:Here's the original case:
...mmm...new case smell .
This is like the cartoon before the movie
Sat Apr 09, 2016 8:52 pm
Beautiful ..... congrats
Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:59 am
Nice stuff Craig!
- Jos
Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:42 am
That is a beauty, what a find Craig. Thanks for sharing! -- Darwin
Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:50 am
Wow Craig, nice find. That thing is as shiny as they get by the looks of it. Looks like it still has the gold strings on it too. It's the immediate brother or sister of my Comm # 132.
How did you determine the completion date? I was only recently made aware that they made a fair number of these after 1991 and for some reason those are valued at quite a bit less than the true 1991 models.
Good score,
Tom
Sun Apr 10, 2016 12:12 pm
Wow - Nice Craig - Congrats on your score!
Plus being christened so to speak by Mr. Otis is too cool!
Cheers,
KF
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Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:38 pm
FZTNT wrote:Wow Craig, nice find. That thing is as shiny as they get by the looks of it. Looks like it still has the gold strings on it too. It's the immediate brother or sister of my Comm # 132.
How did you determine the completion date? I was only recently made aware that they made a fair number of these after 1991 and for some reason those are valued at quite a bit less than the true 1991 models.
Good score,
Tom
Look on the back of the hang tag. There should be a handwritten date.
According to the 15th Edition Blue Book of Guitars, there are three different value pricings:
Australian Lacewood Oct/Nov. 1991
Swamp Ash Cherryburst Mfg. Before Nov. 4, 1991
Swamp Ash Cherryburst 1992-1993
Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:07 pm
Here are some photos of the case:
A question for other Commemorative owners: Does your case look the same?
I think it was built by G&G, but it only has the Made in Canada notation. The latches and metal parts are gold colored. I checked Greg's and Jos' websites for any information on the case,
but did not find any info or photos there. This case does not match any of the cases we have in the
Gallery: Album: Instrument Cases, either.
Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:39 pm
WOW - What a gorgeous guitar! Cool too re the gold opn the case - nice added touch.
Well done Craig.
Cheers, KF
Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:11 pm
Craig wrote:A question for other Commemorative owners: Does your case look the same?
I think it was built by G&G, but it only has the Made in Canada notation. The latches and metal parts are gold colored. I checked Greg's and Jos' websites for any information on the case,
but did not find any info or photos there. This case does not match any of the cases we have in the
Gallery: Album: Instrument Cases, either.
Craig,
It might not have been for a Comm, but I also have (at least) one case with that "Made in Canada" tab. It was so striking, I do remember that even while still being at work. I will check out more details when I get home.
- Jos
Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:00 pm
Craig,
Mighty fine gitar ya got there.
Mon Apr 11, 2016 7:07 pm
Looks great all cleaned up. A very nice acquisition Craig. Since it sat in the case for so long , make sure you take it out and play it once in a while.
Tue Apr 12, 2016 2:08 am
congrats Craig, its home to the right person! What a beauty
Tue Apr 12, 2016 7:29 am
Craig wrote:A question for other Commemorative owners: Does your case look the same?
I think it was built by G&G, but it only has the Made in Canada notation. The latches and metal parts are gold colored. I checked Greg's and Jos' websites for any information on the case,
but did not find any info or photos there. This case does not match any of the cases we have in the
Gallery: Album: Instrument Cases, either.
Here goes Craig:
Commemorative #29:
Commemorative #152:
So both of mine have these cases too.
Congrats again on getting this beauty!
- Jos
Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:39 am
Again Craig, that's a real beautiful guitar. Perhaps the finest one out there. My Comm #132 has the same case. Were these just used for Comms? Or, does anyone have a case from that time period that is the same with a different model in it?
Also, why are these necks, on the Comms, considered Bird's Eye Maple? They really are Flame Maple, no?
Here's my Comm neck.......................................................................................................................And here's my Classic III neck.
See what I mean? Even the Lacewoods have this flame neck.
Oh, Craig, I did not get that hang tag with my Comm, Just the COA and tools and the Leo's Legacy book. You got it all. I never thought of replacing the pick guard so you can play it but I might just do that with mine. What did you use to polish that up? It seems like they scratch if you just breath on it.
Congrats again...
Tom
Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:29 am
I'll take flame over Birdseye any day of the week myself but agree on why do they call it that ??"
Tue Apr 12, 2016 2:07 pm
Fumble fingers wrote:I'll take flame over Birdseye any day of the week myself but agree on why do they call it that ??"
Don't forget quilt as another figure.
- Jos
Tue Apr 12, 2016 2:19 pm
my only Birdseye twisted is all I know ... lol
Tue Apr 12, 2016 4:34 pm
Fumble fingers wrote:my only Birdseye twisted is all I know ... lol
Eric,
Was that a post-2006 (or post compression truss rod) neck?
- Jos
Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:59 pm
2000 Comanche ...... twisted real quick once it moved , went from good to fret buzz to un-playable in about 30 minutes total time
Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:10 am
Wow, what a lovely guitar!
Wed Apr 13, 2016 7:45 am
yowhatsshakin wrote:Craig wrote:A question for other Commemorative owners: Does your case look the same?
I think it was built by G&G, but it only has the Made in Canada notation. The latches and metal parts are gold colored. I checked Greg's and Jos' websites for any information on the case,
but did not find any info or photos there. This case does not match any of the cases we have in the
Gallery: Album: Instrument Cases, either.
Here goes Craig:
Commemorative #29:
Commemorative #152:
So both of mine have these cases too.
Congrats again on getting this beauty!
- Jos
So, it look's like a special case was used for the Commemorative models.
I will add this case to our Gallery Album of cases, soon.
Thanks, Jos!
Wed Apr 13, 2016 7:57 am
FZTNT wrote:Again Craig, that's a real beautiful guitar. Perhaps the finest one out there. My Comm #132 has the same case. Were these just used for Comms? Or, does anyone have a case from that time period that is the same with a different model in it?
Also, why are these necks, on the Comms, considered Bird's Eye Maple? They really are Flame Maple, no?
Here's my Comm neck.......................................................................................................................And here's my Classic III neck.
See what I mean? Even the Lacewoods have this flame neck.
Oh, Craig, I did not get that hang tag with my Comm, Just the COA and tools and the Leo's Legacy book. You got it all. I never thought of replacing the pick guard so you can play it but I might just do that with mine. What did you use to polish that up? It seems like they scratch if you just breath on it.
Congrats again...
Tom
When I first added #133 to the Registry I did not have any photos for reference and used Greg's
Commemorative as a reference, which does have
a Birdseye Maple neck. So, yes, yours and mine do have Flame Maple necks. I updated my registry entry to reflect this.
One interesting note in Greg's listing: he says "Pickguard: One ply mirror gold, plastic", so perhaps he removed the gold metal pickguard and replaced it so he could play it. too.
Wed Apr 13, 2016 11:56 am
Is yours metal? I have not looked that closely at mine, always figured it was plastic with some sort of gold finish, not real gold plating. Now I will have to get it out and look closer, I don't want to take it off really, but I might have to. Now I am curious.
Tom
Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:54 pm
FZTNT wrote:Is yours metal? I have not looked that closely at mine, always figured it was plastic with some sort of gold finish, not real gold plating. Now I will have to get it out and look closer, I don't want to take it off really, but I might have to. Now I am curious.
Tom
Of course, they all came with metal gold plated pickguards.
The photo of Greg's on his site also has the original gold plated metal pickguard.
Fri Apr 15, 2016 5:20 am
Just an awesome piece Craig. Congrats and the fact that it was christened by Mr. Otis is wonderful too! I have been listening to his album with Al Kooper lately and he recorded that when he was 16. I wouldn't mind having those chops.
Fri Apr 15, 2016 3:47 pm
Absolutely stunning guitar!
But the case also caught my attention. See, I bought a 1990 SC-3 from a local owner a few years ago. It came with a somewhat beat up case that I have wondered if it was original equipment. Comparing my case with yours I noticed a few things. The inside off both cases have similar setup, down to the tab with "Case made in Canada," except the lettering on mine is gold-colored print. Mine is also dark grey felt inside. The outside has the same three latch setup, and the the latches look similar. Mine has rounded off corners while yours has more squared-off corner. Your bear white stitching only on the ends of the case, whereas mine only has white stitching all the way around the lid.
When I bought the guitar the previous owner had told me that he bought it from someone in Canada. The "Case made in Canada" kind of led me to think the original owner had acquired the case in Canada. But now that I see your pictures I don't know what the real story is.
I still have no clue if the case of my guitar is original or not.
Sun Apr 17, 2016 8:56 pm
Kit wrote:Absolutely stunning guitar!
But the case also caught my attention. See, I bought a 1990 SC-3 from a local owner a few years ago. It came with a somewhat beat up case that I have wondered if it was original equipment. Comparing my case with yours I noticed a few things. The inside off both cases have similar setup, down to the tab with "Case made in Canada," except the lettering on mine is gold-colored print. Mine is also dark grey felt inside. The outside has the same three latch setup, and the the latches look similar. Mine has rounded off corners while yours has more squared-off corner. Your bear white stitching only on the ends of the case, whereas mine only has white stitching all the way around the lid.
When I bought the guitar the previous owner had told me that he bought it from someone in Canada. The "Case made in Canada" kind of led me to think the original owner had acquired the case in Canada. But now that I see your pictures I don't know what the real story is.
I still have no clue if the case of my guitar is original or not.
This might be a good topic to post with photos of your SC-3's case in the
G&L Instruments (1980-1991) sub-forum. Perhaps other members might have the same case. I checked our Gallery page on G&L cases and don't find one there which might match yours. Would you might posting it there?
TIA,
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